Quite right. She was born in Peru but is Chilean. My mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Allende
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I believe that the deposed ruler, Allende, was Isabel's uncle?
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Not quite. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Allende#Biography says Her father was a first cousin of Salvador Allende, President of Chile from 1970 to 1973; so Salvador is her first cousin once removed.[5][6][7] Many sources cite Allende as being Salvador Allende's niece (without specifying that the relationship is that Tomas and Salvador are cousins);[8] the confusion stems from Allende herself often referring to Salvador as her "'uncle" (tío) in her private life and public interviews.[9] This is because in Spanish a "first cousin once removed" is translated as "second degree uncle" (tío en segundo grado).lindad_amato wrote:I believe that the deposed ruler, Allende, was Isabel's uncle?
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Not much of a love affair. He only kissed her once.Robert Tulip wrote:
Esteban and Rosa are the first love affair, and the first tragedy.
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Ahhhhh, I didn't know that. Thanks for that Robert. I figured there was something symbolic with the green hair and mermaidness. And the Catholic faith is full of symbolism's.Robert Tulip wrote: Mermaids are a symbol of the danger of beauty.
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Good question. I'm gonna guess at this time it is Clara's.heledd wrote: As I haven’t read the whole book yet, I’m confused by whose voice we are hearing. Someone not yet born? Certainly on page 33 we have Estaban’s voice. Can’t wait to read more.
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When this first happened I was taken back by it. Wondering what the heck! But when it happened the second time I appreciated it. It got me inside Esteban's head.Robert Tulip wrote: Occasionally through the book the narration switches without warning or explanation from third person to first person, with the story told by Esteban.
I am wondering if other characters in the book will be doing this as the story moves forward.
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No it is not just you. I really didn't have much sympathy for Esteban. If he was in this day and age he would be considered a stalker. As for Rosa well she has her looks but that's about it.kelstan wrote:I'm having trouble seeing Rosa and Esteban as a tragic love affair. I find Rosa quite vacuous, beautiful but with no substance. She certainly doesn't seem to have any love for Esteban - it's as though she really has no thoughts or feelings of her own at all. And Esteban's professed "love" seems like little more than a desire to possess something beautiful - certainly it doesn't seem as though there is any real love for Rosa the person. I can't seem to empathize with either of these characters - is it just me?
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I had to read that a couple times in the book. Kept thinking I was reading it wrong. Thought it should of said if the stories about hell are "true" we are all F'd.Robert Tulip wrote: Just like the infant Clara telling the church we are fucked if the stories about hell are lies, the death of Rosa from strychnine poisoning introduces a jarring note. People seek to create a beautiful dream, regardless of reality, but reality intrudes to point out that the dream is self-serving.
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I have been waiting to see Chile mentioned myself. What year is this suppose to be? I wouldn't mind Goggling images and seeing what they were wearing and such.heledd wrote:The problem is, I could not read the book as a parable, because I simply did not know enough about the coup in Chile, and for a while was not even sure that it was set in Chile.