• In total there is 1 user online :: 0 registered, 0 hidden and 1 guest (based on users active over the past 60 minutes)
    Most users ever online was 871 on Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:00 am

The Hot 100

A platform to express and share your enthusiasm and passion for poetry. What are your treasured poems and poets? Don't hesitate to showcase the poems you've penned yourself!
Forum rules
Do not promote books in this forum. Instead, promote your books in either Authors: Tell us about your FICTION book! or Authors: Tell us about your NON-FICTION book!.

All other Community Rules apply in this and all other forums.
User avatar
DWill

1H - GOLD CONTRIBUTOR
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame
Posts: 6966
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 am
16
Location: Luray, Virginia
Has thanked: 2262 times
Been thanked: 2470 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

Penelope wrote: Of common duties, decent not to fail
In offices of tenderness, and pay
Meet adoration to my household gods,
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine.


He attributes these duties to his Son, the bounder, he should attribute them to his aged wife!!! Not Jewish is he?
!!!
OH, BIG BANGING BONGS......

This is as inspiring to an elderly lady with big ideas....as 'Once More into the Breach'.....from Henry V......was to those English soldiers.

I'll just have a quick burst on my banjo......By Jove, I needed that.

Thank you!!

5 dings and a Bong - Big ideas is how I like my poetry!
The same number of dings for your reaction! That's as succinct a critical standard as you can get--"Big ideas is how I like my poetry"--and it might behoove modern poets to think about it. But all the big ideas are gone, aren't they, or they've all been shot full of holes. What a dilemma. But no doubt it's true that the reason modern poetry has never been popular has to do with the readership's inability to connect with the content. Whose fault is that, the philistine readers or the poets who are really just communicating with other poets?
Last edited by DWill on Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
lady of shallot

1F - BRONZE CONTRIBUTOR
Genuinely Genius
Posts: 800
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:22 pm
13
Location: Maine
Has thanked: 45 times
Been thanked: 174 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

Saffron wrote:
Penelope wrote:
LofS wrote:

The poem you submitted, Penelope, is not one of the best poems is it?
I don't know which poem you mean LofS, but I'm not sure what a 'best' poem might mean. I just like some, because they give me a buzz, but I don't know why. I don't know how to judge literary merit like Saffron and DWill, but I just try to be honest about what I like and dislike.

I have been being very silly just recently on these threads....a reaction, I think to the more serious topics elsewhere. I think its hysteria. :P
I think we have an oopsie here. I think what LofS meant was the poem you posted Penny was not from the Top 500, not that it was not very good.
Yes, Saffron is correct. I meant only not one of the 500 poems considered best. Not that the poem itself has no merit. Sometimes I am confused if a member is posting a poem they like or re-posting one from the list

Oblivion, in the world of antiques a "ding" is a flaw. Particularly one that is maybe an indentation such as a metal could receive but it could also be a chip in glass or china or a rip in fabric etc. It is a negative.
User avatar
DWill

1H - GOLD CONTRIBUTOR
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame
Posts: 6966
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 am
16
Location: Luray, Virginia
Has thanked: 2262 times
Been thanked: 2470 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

94. "The Sick Rose," By William Blake.

O Rose thou art sick.
The invisible worm,
That flies in the night
In the howling storm:

Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy:
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

93. To Althea, from Prison," by Richard Lovelace

When Love with unconfined wings
Hovers within my gates,
And my divine Althea brings
To whisper at the grates;
When I lie tangled in her hair,
And fetter'd to her eye,
The gods, that wanton in the air,
Know no such liberty.

When flowing cups run swiftly round
With no allaying Thames,
Our careless heads with roses bound,
Our hearts with loyal flames;
When thirsty grief in wine we steep,
When healths and draughts go free,
Fishes, that tipple in the deep,
Know no such liberty.

When (like committed linnets) I
With shriller throat shall sing
The sweetness, mercy, majesty,
And glories of my king;
When I shall voice aloud how good
He is, how great should be,
Enlarged winds, that curl the flood,
Know no such liberty.

Stone walls do not a prison make,
Nor iron bars a cage;
Minds innocent and quiet take
That for an hermitage;
If I have freedom in my love,
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone that soar above,
Enjoy such liberty.
User avatar
Dawn

1F - BRONZE CONTRIBUTOR
Graduate Student
Posts: 419
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:05 am
13
Has thanked: 84 times
Been thanked: 46 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

Stone walls do not a prison make,
Nor iron bars a cage;
Minds innocent and quiet take
That for an hermitage;
If I have freedom in my love,
And in my soul am free,
Angels alone that soar above,
Enjoy such liberty
Very familiar lines (at least the first two) and very satisfying... I like.
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."--Jesus
"For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world--to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice."--Jesus
User avatar
DWill

1H - GOLD CONTRIBUTOR
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame
Posts: 6966
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 am
16
Location: Luray, Virginia
Has thanked: 2262 times
Been thanked: 2470 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

I agree, justly famous lines. The whole poem isn't as memorable, but that's the way it is sometimes, and I suppose none of us would mind writing even a stanza that would be remembered for centuries.
User avatar
Penelope

1G - SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
One more post ought to do it.
Posts: 3267
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:49 am
16
Location: Cheshire, England
Has thanked: 323 times
Been thanked: 679 times
Gender:
Great Britain

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

I love the William Blake - It is really, truely creepy. 3 dings

I only really like the last verse of the Lovelace one and then perhaps only because I recognise them....1 ding.

Of course, I should be ignored because I absolute love the opening lines of Coleridges' Xanadu. I think it is just about my favourite.....

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.


However, the rest of this poem just leaves me cold. So I'm a rubbish critic.
Only those become weary of angling who bring nothing to it but the idea of catching fish.

He was born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world is mad....

Rafael Sabatini
User avatar
Saffron

1F - BRONZE CONTRIBUTOR
I can has reading?
Posts: 2954
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:37 pm
16
Location: Randolph, VT
Has thanked: 474 times
Been thanked: 399 times
United States of America

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

Penelope wrote:I love the William Blake - It is really, truely creepy. 3 dings

I only really like the last verse of the Lovelace one and then perhaps only because I recognise them....1 ding.

Of course, I should be ignored because I absolute love the opening lines of Coleridges' Xanadu. I think it is just about my favourite.....

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree:
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.


However, the rest of this poem just leaves me cold. So I'm a rubbish critic.
My oldest daughter loved this poem when she was young.
User avatar
DWill

1H - GOLD CONTRIBUTOR
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame
Posts: 6966
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:05 am
16
Location: Luray, Virginia
Has thanked: 2262 times
Been thanked: 2470 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

But you always give me a laugh, still. Not that I agree at all that you're a rubbish critic.

Oh, dear. I just espied Lycidas lurking on deck (Penelope, that's a hoary baseball term. Or did we steal it from cricket?) I should have said "Lycidas" on deck so you'd know it's Milton's poem we have to look forward to or dread. I think it's boffo, though the Milton prof may have brainwashed me. He made us memorize and recite the first 14 lines (and that was graduate school). Now I'm wondering what to do. This is over 200 lines of Milton's allusion-laden verse. What are the chances that anyone has time and energy enough to consume the whole piece? I will therefore give you a reduced, low-calorie version. You are free to access the full dish at http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/23286-John-Milton-Lycidas

This is an elegy for Edward king, a classmate of Milton's. There's no indication that they were very close. Milton just uses the occasion to make his own pastoral elegy in imitation of the classics and to attack the clergy.


Yet once more, O ye laurels, and once more,
Ye myrtles brown, with ivy never sere,
I come to pluck your berries harsh and crude,
And with forced fingers rude
Shatter your leaves before the mellowing year.
Bitter constraint and sad occasion dear
Compels me to disturb your season due;
For Lycidas is dead, dead ere his prime,
Young Lycidas, and hath not left his peer.
Who would not sing for Lycidas? he knew
Himself to sing, and build the lofty rhyme.
He must not float upon his watery bier
Unwept, and welter to the parching wind,
Without the meed of some melodious tear.
Begin, then, Sisters of the sacred well
That from beneath the seat of Jove doth spring;
Begin, and somewhat loudly sweep the string.
Hence with denial vain and coy excuse:
So may some gentle Muse
With lucky words favour my destined urn,
And as he passes turn,
And bid fair peace be to my sable shroud!
************************
But, oh! the heavy change, now thou art gone,
Now thou art gone and never must return!
Thee, Shepherd, thee the woods and desert caves,
With wild thyme and the gadding vine o'ergrown,
And all their echoes, mourn.
The willows, and the hazel copses green,
Shall now no more be seen
Fanning their joyous leaves to thy soft lays.
As killing as the canker to the rose,
Or taint-worm to the weanling herds that graze,
Or frost to flowers, that their gay wardrobe wear,
When first the white-thorn blows;
Such, Lycidas, thy loss to shepherd's ear.
****************************
Alas! what boots it with uncessant care
To tend the homely, slighted, shepherd's trade,
And strictly meditate the thankless Muse?
Were it not better done, as others use,
To sport with Amaryllis in the shade,
Or with the tangles of Neaera's hair?
Fame is the spur that the clear spirit doth raise
(That last infirmity of noble mind)
To scorn delights and live laborious days;
But, the fair guerdon when we hope to find,
And think to burst out into sudden blaze,
Comes the blind Fury with the abhorred shears,
And slits the thin-spun life. But not the praise,
Phoebus replied, and touched my trembling ears:
Fame is no plant that grows on mortal soil,
Nor in the glistering foil
Set off to the world, nor in broad rumour lies,
But lives and spreads aloft by those pure eyes
And perfect witness of all-judging Jove;
As he pronounces lastly on each deed,
Of so much fame in heaven expect thy meed.
**************************
Blind mouths! that scarce themselves know how to hold
A sheep-hook, or have learnt aught else the least
That to the faithful herdman's art belongs!
What recks it them? What need they? They are sped:
And, when they list, their lean and flashy songs
Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw;
The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
But, swoln with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;
Besides what the grim wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing said.
But that two-handed engine at the door
Stands ready to smite once, and smite no more."
**************************
For so, to interpose a little ease,
Let our frail thoughts dally with false surmise,
Ay me! whilst thee the shores and sounding seas
Wash far away, where'er thy bones are hurled;
Whether beyond the stormy Hebrides,
Where thou perhaps under the whelming tide
Visit'st the bottom of the monstrous world;
Or whether thou, to our moist vows denied,
Sleep'st by the fable of Bellerus old,
Where the great Vision of the guarded mount
Looks toward Namancos and Bayona's hold.
Look homeward, Angel, now, and melt with ruth:
And, O ye dolphins, waft the hapless youth.
**********************
Now, Lycidas, the shepherds weep no more;
Henceforth thou art the Genius of the shore,
In thy large recompense, and shalt be good
To all that wander in that perilous flood.
Thus sang the uncouth swain to the oaks and rills,
While the still morn went out with sandals grey:
He touched the tender stops of various quills,
With eager thought warbling his Doric lay:
And now the sun had stretched out all the hills,
And now was dropt into the western bay.
At last he rose, and twitched his mantle blue:
Tomorrow to fresh woods, and pastures new.

Notes

'This poem was made upon the unfortunate and untimely death of Mr. Edward King, son of Sir John King Secretary for Ireland, a fellow collegian and intimate friend of our author, who as he was going to visit his relations in Ireland, was drown'd on the 10th of August 1637, and in the 25th year of his age. The year following 1638 a small volume of poems Greek, Latin, and English, was printed at Cambridge in honor of his memory. ... The last poem in the collection was this of Milton, which by his own Manuscript appears to have been written in November 1637, when he was almost 29 years old: and these words in the printed titles of this poem, "and by occasion foretels the ruin of our corrupted clergy, then in their highth," are not in the Manuscript. This poem is with great judgment made of the pastoral kind, as both Mr. King and Milton had been design'd for holy orders and the pastoral care, which gives a peculiar propriety to several passages in it: and in composing it the poet had an eye particularly to Virgil's 10th Eclogue lamenting the unhappy loves of Gallus, and to Spenser's pastoral poems upon the death of the Muses favourite, Sir Philip Sidney. The reader cannot but observe, that there are more antiquated and obsolete words in this than in any other of Milton's poems; which I conceive to be owing partly to his judgment, for he might think them more rustic, and better adapted to the nature of pastoral poetry; and partly to his imitating of Spenser, for as Spenser's stile is most antiquated, where he imitates Chaucer most, in his Shepherds Calendar, so Milton's imitations of Spenser might have the same effect upon the language of this poem. It is called a "monody," from a Greek word signifying a mournful or funeral song sung by a single person: and we have lately had two admirable poems publish'd under this title, one occasion'd by the death of Mr. Pope by a very ingenious poet of Cambridge, and the other to the memory of his deceas'd lady by a gentleman, whose excellent poetry is the least of his many excellencies.
User avatar
Penelope

1G - SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
One more post ought to do it.
Posts: 3267
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:49 am
16
Location: Cheshire, England
Has thanked: 323 times
Been thanked: 679 times
Gender:
Great Britain

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

DWill wrote:

I will therefore give you a reduced, low-calorie version. You are free to access the full dish at http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/23286-John-Milton-Lycidas
Good Grief! Is this just an excerpt?

Ok, well, I'll read it carefully tomorrow. I should be feeling quite cultural after the Hamlet tonight. Then I'll decide whether to go on for the Full Monty.

What a good idea to forshorten it Will!

I will read it after my grand-daughter goes home - about lunchtime - so that I may concentrate. You see, it takes an English Woman to domesticise Milton. :wink:
Only those become weary of angling who bring nothing to it but the idea of catching fish.

He was born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world is mad....

Rafael Sabatini
User avatar
oblivion

1G - SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
Likes the book better than the movie
Posts: 826
Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:10 am
14
Location: Germany
Has thanked: 188 times
Been thanked: 172 times

Re: The Top 500 Poems: 100-1

Unread post

So, I've promptly copied and placed this "excerpt" underneath my pillow hoping for some inspirational dream tonight. Will let you know the results tomorrow ;).
And I admit to being a true and undaunted Coleridge fan and adore Xanadu! Go, Penelope, go!
Gods and spirits are parasitic--Pascal Boyer

Religion is the only force in the world that lets a person have his prejudice or hatred and feel good about it --S C Hitchcock

Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. --André Gide

Reading is a majority skill but a minority art. --Julian Barnes
Post Reply

Return to “A Passion for Poetry”