It is apparent to anyone who does NOT think GWB was a good choice that the Palin pick was a result of a total lack of judgement on our senior citizen of a candidate, John McCain. What do you think?
Oh...Choice 2 should read "No,..."
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Sarah Palin: Good, Bad or just the wrong choice?
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So the Republicans wanted short answers...I wonder why!?
To the Republicans here...are you not embarrassed by this pick for VP? They certainly have been keeping her under wraps and out of the camera's eye. And UNlike Cheney, I doubt she is doing is to be under the radar so she can control the presidency with Rover.
She is really a doink! lol
BUT...they will probably get elected because this country is full of doinks that just cannot see the doinks for the trees.
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So the Republicans wanted short answers...I wonder why!?
To the Republicans here...are you not embarrassed by this pick for VP? They certainly have been keeping her under wraps and out of the camera's eye. And UNlike Cheney, I doubt she is doing is to be under the radar so she can control the presidency with Rover.
She is really a doink! lol
BUT...they will probably get elected because this country is full of doinks that just cannot see the doinks for the trees.
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What kind of experience are you talking about, Chris? Palin has been a mayor and governor, sure. But it seems to me she's been fairly insulated from the center stage of U.S. politics and being from a small town I think she's probably fairly out of touch with the mainstream. Obama, as a law professor, has much knowledge in the study of law and very little experience in executive position. But he's a U.S. senator and it also seems pretty clear (to me) that he's far more knowledgeable than Palin in matters of history and politics. A world leader needs to be able to see the big picture. Experience helps, but I don't think it's the sole, defining criterion.Chris OConnor wrote:I voted that she is too inexperienced to lead this country. But she has far more experience than Obama and therefore Obama is also too inexperienced to lead our nation.
To me it looks like Palin is flying by the seat of her pants. Frequently when she's asked for specifics she comes out with these loopy non-sequiturs. I just don't think she's going to look good against Joe Biden tonight, but we shall see.
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No Chris, she is not more experienced than Obama. Think about it. He was involved in a national goevernment. She governs a state with the population of a large city.Chris OConnor wrote:I voted that she is too inexperienced to lead this country. But she has far more experience than Obama and therefore Obama is also too inexperienced to lead our nation.
And she is just a dope from what comes, or does not come, out of her mouth!
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I don't think anyone is qualified to be President: period. But some are less likely to make terrible disasters than others.
I think Palin is a bad choice. I think Obama is a bad choice too, as is Biden and McCain as well. We are left with simply bad choices and it seems, once again, to boil down to a lesser of two evils vote.
I think Obama has much greater potential to achieve the kind of public good that I hope and work for. My vote for Obama would be a vote for his potential. Likewise, my vote against Palin would be a vote against her potential. Neither exhibit the kind of experience that would warrant a safe choice.
At the same time, McCain and Biden have truckloads of experience, very little of which reflects the kind of public good I want to support and protect. I think their experience reflects much that has substantially damaged the public good, and I have no reason to think this destructiveness will not continue.
I think Palin is a bad choice. I think Obama is a bad choice too, as is Biden and McCain as well. We are left with simply bad choices and it seems, once again, to boil down to a lesser of two evils vote.
I think Obama has much greater potential to achieve the kind of public good that I hope and work for. My vote for Obama would be a vote for his potential. Likewise, my vote against Palin would be a vote against her potential. Neither exhibit the kind of experience that would warrant a safe choice.
At the same time, McCain and Biden have truckloads of experience, very little of which reflects the kind of public good I want to support and protect. I think their experience reflects much that has substantially damaged the public good, and I have no reason to think this destructiveness will not continue.
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Well put Dissident. But at least with Biden, he would be number two with little chance (natural causes) of finding himself in office of the President. So his experience would only help Obama make decisions but not trump policy decisions. I would rather be concerned about the Main guy, and McCain, IMO, is not the guy. He is too old, too much in line with what we have had and basically, I am one that says that ANY change from a bad situation is something good. Even if it just shakes things up. Republicans have had pretty much total control of the government for 8 years (discounting the Daschle 'majority' every congress since at least 99 has been Republican controled from what I have researched).Dissident Heart wrote: At the same time, McCain and Biden have truckloads of experience, very little of which reflects the kind of public good I want to support and protect. I think their experience reflects much that has substantially damaged the public good, and I have no reason to think this destructiveness will not continue.
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Here is another bit of useful current events summary for those Ludites like myself (if there are any others) who don't get TV reception. I rely on the kindness of my friend Garth to forward me items like this to supplement print and the internet.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n
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I can't believe people in this country are actually as racist as this election is making them look. Ugly.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4493093n
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She does sound as if she has never given thought to Supreme Court decisions. I think even a good number of "people on the street" would have had an answer or two to this question about Supreme Court decisions they disagree with. When she vaguely mentions "states rights," it reminds me of what people used to argue who were for slavery, and later, against the racial integration and voting rights rulings. States in the South wanted those to be "states rights" issues. Is that what she means?Come on. This is a bit of interview broadcast today of Biden and Palin. (4:00) The last part of the clip is a question about what other Supreme Court decisions Mrs Palin might disagree with (besides Roe v Wade). Listen carefully to the answer. This woman may be folksy but she is totally unprepared intellectually for national office. She talks and says nothing. She is George Bush on steroids. No, seriously, anyone who thinks this person is qualified for the White House probably believes that George Bush brought peace and prosperity to America.
I can't believe people in this country are actually as racist as this election is making them look. Ugly.
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