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RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:19 am
by ant
Having said that, who here believes this left wing BS

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ruth-bad ... 795b108150


I call BS on the claim.
It's akin to claims made that Christopher Hitchens on his death bed claimed he was a believer


Why did Ginsberg keep her seat till she died?
Why didn't she assure balanced continuity by retiring when Obama was president?


Ruth made her seat too political.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:46 am
by Harry Marks
ant wrote: It's akin to claims made that Christopher Hitchens on his death bed claimed he was a believer
Well, actually not. It is entirely consistent with her previous views and her obvious political interest in the character of the court. She renounced no previous position but wished (in vain, of course) for the Republicans to follow principle rather than expediency.
ant wrote:Why did Ginsberg keep her seat till she died?
Why didn't she assure balanced continuity by retiring when Obama was president?
The obvious answer is Merrick Garland. Some have said she should have retired before the Dems lost the Senate (for the terrible crime of getting 34 million Americans covered by health insurance, and removing the freedom of insurance companies to refuse coverage for pre-existing conditions) but that was 11 years ago and many, many justices have stayed longer than her age at that point.
ant wrote: Ruth made her seat too political.
That's what they said about Scalia, too. Principles can be political. The important thing in a Justice is that they have some: that they be able to enunciate a principle behind their decisions, a principle they really believe in rather than a convenient CYA for the political outcome they are seeking.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:55 am
by DWill
ant wrote:Having said that, who here believes this left wing BS

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ruth-bad ... 795b108150


I call BS on the claim.
It's akin to claims made that Christopher Hitchens on his death bed claimed he was a believer


Why did Ginsberg keep her seat till she died?
Why didn't she assure balanced continuity by retiring when Obama was president?


Ruth made her seat too political.
So you're saying that Bader-Ginsburg's position on Merrick Garland was that the vacancy needed to be filled before the election, so that when she's reported to have said her own vacancy should not be filled, that is suspicious, a false report? I need some clarification.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:16 pm
by ant
Harry wrote:

Well, actually not. It is entirely consistent with her previous views and her obvious political interest in the character of the court.
Brilliant retort!

Except it entirely misses the point: the ability of hearsay to place words in the mouth of anyone, particularly the dead.

This is an emotional time for the unhinged left - I get it.

So Ruth was interested in the "character of the court" but did not have the foresight to vacate the chair when an Admin like Obama's could more or less assure its character?
That lack of planning is on her.

You sound nearly as naive as Ocasio Cortez who is on record saying the dying wishes of Ruth should not be ignored and that "we" are in an "a fight for our lives" now.

Anyone tell Cortez that the Constitution allows for the sitting president to nominate a Supreme Court Judge, that alleged "dying wishes" do not count, and that despite the warnings that we all would be dead if Trump won his first term have still not come to fruition?
I mean, I was told that if Trump won the nomination the first time people like me would be deported or put in concentration camps.

Keep running on emotion instead of reason, guy.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:17 pm
by ant
DWill wrote:
ant wrote:Having said that, who here believes this left wing BS

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ruth-bad ... 795b108150


I call BS on the claim.
It's akin to claims made that Christopher Hitchens on his death bed claimed he was a believer


Why did Ginsberg keep her seat till she died?
Why didn't she assure balanced continuity by retiring when Obama was president?


Ruth made her seat too political.
So you're saying that Bader-Ginsburg's position on Merrick Garland was that the vacancy needed to be filled before the election, so that when she's reported to have said her own vacancy should not be filled, that is suspicious, a false report? I need some clarification.
Um, I don't even know what you're talking about here.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:48 pm
by geo
ant wrote:Having said that, who here believes this left wing BS
According to NPR, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's statement was recorded by her granddaughter Clara Spera: "my most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

As such, this isn't "left wing BS", but a direct quote as reported by several major newspapers. I don't see anyone challenging the veracity of the statement and it seems quite consistent with who Ginsburg was, her legacy as an advocate for gender equality and women's rights. Naturally, she would want her replacement to share her progressive beliefs and values. Why is hard for you to accept?

So I believe it as far as it goes. It seems far more likely that Ginsburg made this statement than that the quote was fabricated by NPR and/or Clara Spera. What would they gain by such dishonesty? Why would they risk their credibility?

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:50 pm
by ant
Another one checks in to validate hearsay in a super charged political climate.



who else here believes Ruth Ginsberg would use her last dying breath to essentially promote betraying the constitution? :lol:
Makes sense!!
rumor has it she also said "vote blue!" rignt before she took her last breath

Boy, the unhinged are everywhere now. Even on Booktalk.

"Several major papers are reporting it" :roll:

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Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:59 pm
by geo
ant wrote:Another one checks in to validate hearsay in a super charged political climate.



who else here believes Ruth Ginsberg would use her last dying breath to essentially promote betraying the constitution? :lol:
Makes sense!!
rumor has it she also said "vote blue!" rignt before she took her last breath

Boy, the unhinged are everywhere now. Even on Booktalk.

"Several major papers are reporting it" :roll:

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So the granddaughter is lying. NPR doesn't care about its credibility as a news organization? As I said, Ginsburg's statement is perfectly consistent with her life's work. It's up to you to explain how it's not believeable. And how is it Ginsburg's statement a betrayal of the Constitution? Are you going to troll this one out or respond with an honest response?

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:09 pm
by ant
In 2016 Ruth Ginsberg is on record as saying “nothing in the Constitution” prevents filling court seat in final year"


https://www.independentsentinel.com/jus ... inal-year/

Find it very hard to believe her alleged final words would be encouraging a betrayal of the Constitution.
I don't have a dog in this race and am not as unhinged as most of you are in this political climate

OH!!! HER GRANDDAUGHER WOULD NEVER LIE!!


Talk to any hospice caregiver. ABSOLUTELY NONE would tell you end of life patients took a moment to talk about career replacements and politics.

Sorry.. it's just not likely in the least.

Re: RIP - Ruth Ginsberg

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:33 pm
by ant
who is Ruth Ginsberg's granddaughter and why is she a credible source?
because she's RG's granddaughter, so therefore she would not lie for any reason whatsoever?

wow
we truly have some phony skeptics here on BT