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Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:12 pm
by DB Roy
geo wrote: While we're waiting for another insurrection, on Biden's inauguration date perhaps, it will be interesting to see if Trump pardons any of the insurrectionists who are being charged. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
Don't hold your breath. Trump has already distanced himself from that mob. It wouldn't make sense to suddenly pardon them. Nor does it benefit him in any way to do so. He's probably going to get charged for playing a part in that so why would he pardon people whose actions will get him charged? Don't count on Trump to help them at all. Trump always turns his back on the people who break the law trying to help him. He pushes them to do it and then when they do it, he disavows any part in the law-breaking.

Remember when he told supporters at his rallies to go ahead and assault his hecklers and that he would pay their legal fees? Name a single person who was charged with assault whose legal fees he's paid. That's who he is.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:19 pm
by DB Roy
LanDroid wrote:
About 87% of Black voters nationwide chose Biden over Trump, according to preliminary national exit polling. Those early exit polls show that 19% of Black men voted for Trump, as did 9% of Black women.

An Associated Press VoteCast survey showed overall larger Black support for Biden — 90%. According to the AP survey, 12% of Black men voted for Trump, while only 6% of Black women supported him.

11/12/2020
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 222692002/
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Okay, I give up. First I'm told that Trump had even more black support then he did in 2016 now I'm told it was insignificant. Stick to one argument or the other.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:07 pm
by LanDroid
This is not complicated. Although Trump's support among blacks increased slightly over 2016, that support is still insignificant => at 10% to 13% <= as the stats I just posted indicate.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:18 pm
by Taylor
Is it just me?
Is there something easy in the air?
Have the American people changed the course of history, yet again?
After these past 2 weeks for me personally there is a peace of mind. Former President Shit for Brains is gone. :bananadance: :bananadance: :bananadance: .

The new acronym: FPSfB :clap2: :tease: :tease: :tease:

But seriously folks.. Is it just me?

What scandals are in store under a Biden administration?

I had some concerns in my mind. So, I asked my libertarian/conservative/GOP friends if they thought that due to the fact that the entire FPSfB family has decided to take up full time residency here in the State of Florida, that there may be an attempt by the Trumps to be influential/dominant in this states politics. I have been surprised by the response from my FPSfB friends in regards to that question.

The response I get is, the Trump family’s done.

There’s speculation as to potential attempts at some sort of public platform like podcasts or radio, perhaps even a version of a “news” network but no real sense of a future influence.

I’m wondering what it was like for Herbert Hoover, someone who experienced a similarly failed departure from the White House. Hoover built a dam.. FPSfB built a section of border wall.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:59 pm
by LanDroid
It's an amazing achievement considering Trump could have won a second term and the events of 1/6 hint at what we avoided. But I don't feel like celebrating yet. 78% of republicans still support Trump. I expect that to drop significantly. Hard to imagine strong support continuing for someone who lost the House, then the Presidency, then the Senate. More tales of corruption and mental illness will be forthcoming.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:18 pm
by Taylor
@ LanDroid: yes, 78% seems daunting, but I’m not scared, frustrated or concerned.

FPSfB was cancelled. It was beautiful to witness.

FPSfB experienced Justice Holmes’ “market place of ideas” .

Cancel Culture is the culmination of the market place of ideas. Good thinking can prevail, we know this now because we have such a fresh example. The “phenomenon” of FPSfB was tarnished by insurrection, it was witnessed by many of his supporters and they were appalled at the events of 6 January 2021.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:25 pm
by Taylor
I’m thinking that for many MAGA supporters there is the realization that for them, holding a grudge is not a good idea. Dems came into this knowing/expressing that grudges would not be part of their program. My arms are open, those MAGA arms will open too. Of course we’ll both have concealed weapons :lol:

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:24 am
by DWill
Just about the only gracious act Trump committed was a reportedly "generous" letter that he left on Biden's new desk. Otherwise, Trump was no different publicly than what has always been--not admitting Biden was the legitimate president, abusing his pardon power, even rescinding at the last moment the only anti-swamp measure he had enacted.

There couldn't possibly be a stronger contrast between two consecutive inaugural speeches, Trump's and Biden's. I just loved what Biden had to say. His hopes may not come to pass, but none of the speech sounded empty, and it had not a hint of rancor.

So, now, do we retire "Trump Watch," as Trump's Twitter account was retired?

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:22 pm
by Harry Marks
Taylor wrote:Is it just me?
Is there something easy in the air?
I certainly prefer learning about Amanda Gorman than about the orange man.
Taylor wrote:What scandals are in store under a Biden administration?
Don't hold your breath. There might be more dirt on Hunter Biden but I think the allegations that Joe Biden was using influence are most likely a crock. Not that he is squeaky clean, but that is just not where Uncle Joe's head is at.
Taylor wrote:I had some concerns in my mind. So, I asked my libertarian/conservative/GOP friends if they thought that due to the fact that the entire FPSfB family has decided to take up full time residency here in the State of Florida, that there may be an attempt by the Trumps to be influential/dominant in this states politics. I have been surprised by the response from my FPSfB friends in regards to that question.

The response I get is, the Trump family’s done.
I would not be at all surprised. Much of the Republican Party only kowtowed because he was "a winner" (and happy to put their head on a pike, as he did with Jeff Sessions, if they disobeyed His Messiahship). Ukraine and the pandemic showed that was not even close to being true, and the election showed that he is a drag on the ticket. The deplorables still love him for his meanness and his tough stand on immigration (rumor has it the caravans are already starting up from Central America) but Biden would have to be pretty politically tone-deaf to alienate the suburban housewives who were already disgusted with 45
Taylor wrote:There’s speculation as to potential attempts at some sort of public platform like podcasts or radio, perhaps even a version of a “news” network but no real sense of a future influence.
I can see it now. "Former President Trump said today on Trump News that he was responsible for the vaccine against Covid and Biden is incompetent. The sound of eyes rolling was audible across the country."

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:24 pm
by Harry Marks
DWill wrote:So, now, do we retire "Trump Watch," as Trump's Twitter account was retired?
Okay, I will make a New Year's resolution to leave it alone for a week. We will see after that.