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Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:26 am
by ant
We also learned that Donald, Jr has tweeted the insinuation that Biden is a pedophile. Straight out of Mississippi politics. If you can't argue the facts and you can't argue the law, you can still give motivated reasoners an excuse to claim they are on the side of good.



Way too many videos that have been circulating for a few years now of Biden's hands inappropriately handling females. In particular, under-aged girls. They are easy to find, but apparently more easy for liberals to ignore.

Any man that put his hands on my daughter (or wife) the way Joe Biden h does would have his ass handed to him. His political affiliation would not be enough for me to excuse his behavior.

Ironically, this seems similar to the religious looking the other way when their priests take advantage of their power and influence in the most foul manner possible.
In this case, Biden is a priest like figure who represents a political religion that gives hope to his flock. And we all know how politics can become a substitute for religion, when said religion has been watered down so much it's become dry.

His behavior around minors is just too bizarre.

The real question here is who in their right mind would not find Joe Biden's behavior creepy?

Who would have thought liberals would be willing to argue for a man like this under the guise of arguing against his opponent?

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:56 am
by Harry Marks
ant wrote:
We also learned that Donald, Jr has tweeted the insinuation that Biden is a pedophile. Straight out of Mississippi politics. If you can't argue the facts and you can't argue the law, you can still give motivated reasoners an excuse to claim they are on the side of good.
Way too many videos that have been circulating for a few years now of Biden's hands inappropriately handling females. In particular, under-aged girls. They are easy to find, but apparently more easy for liberals to ignore.
The pics and videos being circulated on the right are normal politician baby-kissing and child-blessing. How do I know this? I don't, but I know how the right wing extremists are behaving, and I read it from a credible source, so I believe it.

I do think Biden's hair-sniffing and shoulder-handling is creepy. I would rather that the Dems had united around someone squeaky clean like Obama. But I also know that it would make no difference: the right wing would accuse Liz Warren of pedophilia.
His behavior around minors is just too bizarre.
I sincerely doubt it. I also doubt the insinuations that Trump raped underage girls, since his obvious deep pockets and high profile made him an easy target for gold-diggers of whatever variety.

Who would have thought liberals would be willing to argue for a man like this under the guise of arguing against his opponent?
You are really wedded to this narrative. If I were a Trump supporter I suppose I would be too. But the man and his movement are not just populist, they are also authoritarian, deeply dishonest (most notably to their populist supporters) and unscrupulous. So I know very firmly who I am against.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:55 pm
by ant
The pics and videos being circulated on the right are normal politician baby-kissing and child-blessing

Unbelievable.

Translation:

The right is circulating the videos, therefore Biden's behavior in them must be normal toward children.
How do I know this? I don't - but it's the right that's circulating the videos.


Truly a remarkable justification of the deviant and very public psycho-sexual behavior by a public figure running for the highest office in the land.

Not surprising though. It's a slippery slope:
Dismiss Tara Reade's sexual assault accusations, despite Biden himself previously asking people NOT to dismiss these types of courageous outings of powerful men, and it leads to looking the other way when children are being literally fondled on camera.

If a priest put his hands on children the way Biden does and it happened to be televised there would be a national uproar.
But Biden is running against Trump so it's just grandfatherly, old politician behavior. Even Pelosi is on record as saying Biden needs to keep his distance. And despite that, his perverse behavior continued. Biden's senility issues are almost a complete afterthought now!


I fear for our country when evil and immoral behavior can be dismissed so easily for the sake of political ideology.


The forked tongue of doublespeak is more prevalent than ever.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 3:45 pm
by Harry Marks
ant wrote:
The pics and videos being circulated on the right are normal politician baby-kissing and child-blessing

Unbelievable.
Got any evidence? Or just the kind of creatively modified stuff KindaSkolarly has a seemingly endless supply of.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 4:18 pm
by Harry Marks
ant wrote:OPEDS are NOT fact checks.
Good thing the cited "please note my unbiased source" is not an Op-Ed piece, then. According to RCP it is a "commentary," from
Kayla Gowdy is the social media and rapid response director for America First Action PAC.
Way better than an Op-Ed.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:38 pm
by Harry Marks
Today William Barr said "As long as I'm attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends."

It wasn't only the involuntary snort this elicited that reminded me of Miss Piggy. "Moi? Moi?" Jamais! Vraiment!

Once or twice now Barr has asked us to believe that he would never (Never!) do anything biased and for politics. The problem is that this appeals as a hope he is reforming. But since he does not admit what he has already done exactly of that nature, we are left with no reason to take him seriously. How can someone reform if they don't admit that their crimes are wrong?

Of course, some people will believe him, that he would never do such a thing. But to do so, they have to ignore the blatant misrepresentations he has already made, and the obvious overriding of concerns for impartial pursuit of justice, most notable recently in the cases of Roger Stone and Michael Flynn. Face it, we are talking about an attorney general whose concerns for justice do not extend as far as excluding Rudy Giuliani from trying to scrape up dirt in Ukraine that might be used against the President's likely opponent, or for that matter to taking the President's attempted extortion of Ukraine at face value. He helped with the coverup, and when he should have investigated the criminal actions himself, he instead tried to prevent the House of Representatives from getting the truth about it.

"As long as I'm attorney general, the criminal justice system will not be used for partisan political ends." You got to admit, the man can keep a straight face.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:07 pm
by DWill
Maybe he has some sort of deal with Trump, whereby Trump agrees to let him posture as impartial justice once in a while, in exchange for certain favors?

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:11 pm
by ant
DWill wrote:Maybe he has some sort of deal with Trump, whereby Trump agrees to let him posture as impartial justice once in a while, in exchange for certain favors?
This type of open suspicion has run rickshaw during Trump's tenure.
Asking for evidence when one is made is fair game.

Evidence?

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:30 am
by DWill
ant wrote:
DWill wrote:Maybe he has some sort of deal with Trump, whereby Trump agrees to let him posture as impartial justice once in a while, in exchange for certain favors?
This type of open suspicion has run rickshaw during Trump's tenure.
Asking for evidence when one is made is fair game.

Evidence?
It's not a serious theory, ant. More in the spirit of "almost as if." I thought that would be understood.

PS--Just read about T. using hydroxychloroquine. I wish he wouldn't for the sake of him and his family.

Re: Trump Watch

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 9:02 pm
by Harry Marks
Today's news told us how investigating the legality of an emergency declaration, used to excuse prohibited sales of arms to the Saudis despite their abuse of our arms against civilians and other misbehavior, may have been a reason Linick was fired. May even have been the real reason. It seems the "emergency" was that MBS and the Saudis were considering buying from the Russians or the Chinese. After the announcement of the emergency, representatives wanted to know why it had not been included in their briefing by the State Department 3 days before.

Linick issued a scathing report on Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server. But holding both sides accountable is not good enough for this Administration. Only one side deserves to be held accountable.

And yesterday (Monday) Trump threatened to completely de-fund the World Health Organization. Because Bill Gates is doing such a good job without them? Nah. Because they, (wait for it,) praised and excused China early in the pandemic. Exactly what he did, in other words. Your speculation is as good as mine whether this is complete projection or just intentional deflection.

To state the obvious, FEMA has been combatting Covid, as has the CDC. Trump's stated refusal of responsibility does not stop the rest of the government from doing its job. But his lack of curiosity about setting strategy does make a person wonder. Is it too technical? ("We have people who take care of that.") Not enough opportunity for politically productive posturing? Potential for being held accountable for actual decisions? I confess myself baffled, since none of these really seems to fit. I mean, he is okay with letting the government do its job on most things. Why is he jumping around, waving his arms and shouting and pointing fingers, over this?

I sort of agree with Trump that the high case numbers in the U.S. are due in part to high levels of testing (though testing and tracing are still not up to the task). But did he really need to call the high death toll a "badge of honor"? "Let's get back to normal" is looking like a better and better slogan for Biden.