I completely disagree with your interpretations of Biden's words. He's from an older generation that is perhaps not perfectly in sync with the current zeitgeist of gender,
He's a politician for christ's sake... you'd think he'd find the time to take some cultural sensitivity classes.. They're pretty easy to find.
Speaking of cultural sensitivity, read this:
False claim: Joe Biden pictured with “Grand Wizard” of Ku Klux Klan
So the claim was debunked.. Robert Byrd was not in fact a Grand Wizard, he was *just* a member and an organizer for the KKK
How do you think a lot of African Americans feel about something like this?
Or are blacks that might find this association repulsive and offensive not really black?
We really need to get rid of this thread, first of all. The picture of Biden with Robert Byrd, who had renounced his early Klan membership, is supposed to be some kind of shocker?--OMG, how could Biden be seen standing next to another member of the U.S. Senate!
The African-American vote in South Carolina propelled Biden to the status as presumptive nominee. The photo, I feel certain, would have had no influence on that outcome.
DWill wrote:We really need to get rid of this thread, first of all. The picture of Biden with Robert Byrd, who had renounced his early Klan membership, is supposed to be some kind of shocker?--OMG, how could Biden be seen standing next to another member of the U.S. Senate!
The African-American vote in South Carolina propelled Biden to the status as presumptive nominee. The photo, I feel certain, would have had no influence on that outcome.
Yes, lets censor this thread asap.
Anyway..,
The real shocker is why on earth would a racist former KKK member be allowed to continue his public "servant" role and rub elbows with any party, let alone the party that's supposed to abhor racism.
So Amy Cooper (the lady that called the police on a black man that asked her to leash her pet) was accused on social media of being a racist "Trumper"
Turns out she's a liberal
Point? Let's not pretend racism is the trait of one political party.
We have senators with very racist personal histories.
We have racist democratic candidates running for president
And we have racist people who identify as liberal.
Racism is rampant and has no political boundaries. Let's stop pretending or ignoring that fact
My new favorite campaign statement from Joe Biden: "I'm prepared to say that I have a record of over forty years and that I'm going to beat Joe Biden."
Does he plan to debate Trump dressed like that? The glasses may be to cover his retracting eyeballs. The man is both physically and mentally decrepit. The Democrats should be charged with elder abuse.
DWill wrote:We really need to get rid of this thread, first of all. The picture of Biden with Robert Byrd, who had renounced his early Klan membership, is supposed to be some kind of shocker?--OMG, how could Biden be seen standing next to another member of the U.S. Senate!
The African-American vote in South Carolina propelled Biden to the status as presumptive nominee. The photo, I feel certain, would have had no influence on that outcome.
Yes, lets censor this thread asap.
I meant that its title isn't at all apropos.
Anyway..,
The real shocker is why on earth would a racist former KKK member be allowed to continue his public "servant" role and rub elbows with any party, let alone the party that's supposed to abhor racism.
You do realize that Robert Byrd was a duly elected member of the Senate from West Virginia, it's longest serving member. You're suggesting that he should have been ousted somehow for belonging to the Klan as a young person? Should all politicians who were racists and then wised up nevertheless be kicked out? I'm not seeing your point.
So Amy Cooper (the lady that called the police on a black man that asked her to leash her pet) was accused on social media of being a racist "Trumper"
Turns out she's a liberal
Point? Let's not pretend racism is the trait of one political party.
We have senators with very racist personal histories.
We have racist democratic candidates running for president
And we have racist people who identify as liberal.
Racism is rampant and has no political boundaries. Let's stop pretending or ignoring that fact
Still not seeing the point, sorry. You're not saying Biden is a racist, are you?
You're suggesting that he should have been ousted somehow for belonging to the Klan as a young person?
This question is troublesome... why wouldn't we oust former KKK clansmen from public office?
Do you know how offensive asking if we should would be to a black person? Byrd should not be collaborating with other democrats and should not be excused for being a member of a racist organisation that has a history of horrific violence against african americans.
You're not saying Biden is a racist, are you?
Yes I am.. Biden is racist. And many black americans took his recent comments about not really being black if some blacks choose not to vote for him as racist.
Are you going to dismiss the black americans that were offended by his comment?
Biden's time has come and gone.. He's from a era that saw nothing wrong with racial inequality. Google it. It's there.
When you add the serious questions surrounding his senility, you have a person that's unfit for the presidency.
ant wrote:Biden's time has come and gone.. He's from a era that saw nothing wrong with racial inequality. Google it. It's there.
When you add the serious questions surrounding his senility, you have a person that's unfit for the presidency.
So we have unfit vs. unfitter. Kinda makes you wonder about this democracy business, doesn't it?
ant wrote:Biden's time has come and gone.. He's from a era that saw nothing wrong with racial inequality. Google it. It's there.
When you add the serious questions surrounding his senility, you have a person that's unfit for the presidency.
So we have unfit vs. unfitter. Kinda makes you wonder about this democracy business, doesn't it?
It makes me wonder how some people sleep at night knowing they support a racist that's nothing more than a more appealing racist at the end of the day.
For those who might want to pigeon hole someone, my choice was Tulsi Gabbard - fresh new face, female (overdue for the presidency), not afraid to call out either side, fresh perspective, person of color.
Biden would be a puppet and I think a lot of people on the left know that.
He certainly isn't qualified, imo.
DWill wrote:You're suggesting that he should have been ousted somehow for belonging to the Klan as a young person?
This question is troublesome... why wouldn't we oust former KKK clansmen from public office?
But are you really troubled by the question, ant? Pardon me, but are you provoked to speak out when unsavory details come up in a non-Democrat's or non-liberal's background? How would you propose to overturn the will of the people anyway?
Do you know how offensive asking if we should would be to a black person? Byrd should not be collaborating with other democrats and should not be excused for being a member of a racist organisation that has a history of horrific violence against african americans.
I have no brief for the late Robert Byrd. But he was "collaborating" with other Democrats long after that episode in his life. Do you think that people forever lose the chance to redeem themselves?
ant wrote:
DWill wrote:You're not saying Biden is a racist, are you?
Yes I am.. Biden is racist. And many black americans took his recent comments about not really being black if some blacks choose not to vote for him as racist.
No, that's not how I understand their reaction to Biden's gaffe. The remark struck them as presumptuous and arrogant. Biden served 8 years under a black president, for pity's sake, and it's that loyalty to a black man that African Americans think is worth rewarding. Biden a racist? Sorry, absurd. You will maneuver to a point where nearly everyone can be called racist, so the charge will have no meaning.
Are you going to dismiss the black americans that were offended by his comment?
Please demonstrate that they viewed his statement as racist, rather than arrogant and insensitive (not the same as racist).He also apologized for the remark, which usually means something to people who are offended.
Biden's time has come and gone.. He's from a era that saw nothing wrong with racial inequality. Google it. It's there.
That's just historically inaccurate. Have you heard of LBJ?
When you add the serious questions surrounding his senility, you have a person that's unfit for the presidency.
Then it'll be survival of the least unfit in November, and by that criterion Biden deserves to win.