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Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:38 am
by Litwitlou
LanDroid wrote:Hundreds of years after the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, it is indeed stupid to imagine that anything will end racism or social injustice in America.
“You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated.”
— Abraham Lincoln

"Lincoln hosted a delegation of freed slaves at the White House in the hopes of getting their support on a plan for colonization in Central America. Given the “differences” between the two races and the hostile attitudes of whites towards blacks, Lincoln argued, it would be “better for us both, therefore, to be separated.”

The Lincoln Administration set aside funds to help ex-slaves and negro freemen succeed in Liberia. The colonization solution was a concrete project long before Lincoln. before Lincoln.

"Founded on April 25, 1822, Monrovia is the capital city of the West African country of Liberia. Located on the Atlantic Coast at Cape Mesurado, Monrovia had a population of 1,010,970 as of the 2008 census. With 29% of the total population of Liberia, Monrovia is the country's most populous city.
Monrovia is named in honor of U.S. President James Monroe, a prominent supporter of the colonization of Liberia and the American Colonization Society."

https://www.history.com/news/5-things-y ... ancipation

The upshot is that the native population did not accept the American negroes as African.


Maybe in 20-40 years when people of color outnumber Wasps something may be done about racism.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:09 am
by ant
DWill wrote:Conservatives certainly think they've got a poster woman for the unprepared, misinformed politician in Ocasio-Cortez. They won't leave her alone. But how effective is it, really, to use that tactic to distract from another equally unprepared, uniformed politician who happens to occupy a slightly higher office than the 29-year-old congresswoman? At any rate, some conservatives say the attacks are shallow and ultimately more discrediting to those making them than to Ocasio-Cortez. https://nypost.com/2018/11/25/cheap-sho ... io-cortez/

OK, so she has been prone to some gaffes. I have to think that the disproportionate reaction to her stems from fear of her influence over young voters who want change. She's not a wallflower, I admire her for that, doesn't appeared overawed by the institution. And some of her ideas just might be good ones; they might even be ideas that conservatives complaining about "the swamp" should like. Example: reforms to the way business is done in Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 5d790402f2

Unbelievable.

Why should anyone leave a public servant voted to be a representative of the people alone? Particularly in the political square? That's ridiculous.

My pointing out her stupidity is NOT a "tactic" to distract anyone from anything. I suspect there are many concerned citizens like myself who's motives are not as petty as you undoubtedly presume are true of everyone on the right, or center (like myself).

Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.

More to the point; what's truly alarming is the amount of people that are oblivious to her obliviousness and voted for her. That's what's scary about all this.

You can't hide or fix stupid.


You're a bright person, DWILL.. I know you always are first to distributed a little intellectual charity. But this is well beyond that. It's flat-out dangerous.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:18 pm
by Interbane
ant wrote:Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.
Everything you say above regarding her applies twofold to Trump.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:23 pm
by ant
Interbane wrote:
ant wrote:Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.
Everything you say above regarding her applies twofold to Trump.

Hey, pal.., I'm honest enough with myself to acknowledge that. And, again, I didn't vote for the guy.

You on the other hand wave off crimes against immigrants as something that we "cant expect to report on all the time" (paraphrased) - especially when it's happening when your guy is sitting in the White House.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:31 pm
by Interbane
ant wrote:You on the other hand wave off crimes against immigrants as something that we "cant expect to report on all the time" (paraphrased) - especially when it's happening when your guy is sitting in the White House.
Are you referring to my comment that the left doesn't report against its own side, and vice versa from the right? Not only is that a true comment, but it applies to you as well, in your silence towards the crimes of the current administration.

That doesn't mean I'm dismissive of it. I would HOPE both sides report on the crimes of their own side. I would HOPE you speak out against what Trump does, but I don't expect it. You have such a burning hatred for me that you misconstrue me this bad?

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:23 pm
by ant
Interbane wrote:

Are you referring to my comment that the left doesn't report against its own side, and vice versa from the right?
LMAO!!

What utter nonsense! Talk about trying to sell a giant pile of stink..

It's the left that champions itself as the party of the people, the defenders of the weak, the mouthpiece of the indigent, the universal moralists, the caretakers of all that is decent and good, etc etc.

To think these types of moral abuses against immigrants do not cease to exist during the left's watch, and that you cannot expect the left to report their occurrences, "report against itself" or even attempt to ameliorate what they cry foul on when they are not seated in power has got to be the most despicable, reprehensible, morally bankrupt excuse I've ever heard.

Insanity speaketh.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:22 pm
by Interbane
ant wrote:To think these types of moral abuses against immigrants do not cease to exist during the left's watch, and that you cannot expect the left to report their occurrences
Everything I say is going over your head. Why are you quoting me if you aren't replying to my words?

First of all, the left DID report on these things, as I showed. Secondly, it wouldn't be ok if they DIDN'T report on it.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:25 pm
by DB Roy
I hope Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez runs for president. I'd vote for her. It would be worth it just so I could laugh watching the right spit up blood. That's what I miss most about Obama.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:16 am
by Interbane
I hope we get a president that brings us closer together rather than further apart. Looking down the road of our current trajectory is scary.

Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:39 pm
by ant
Interbane wrote:I hope we get a president that brings us closer together rather than further apart. Looking down the road of our current trajectory is scary.

Right.., except Christians, huh?



Let's hope though that our next president doesn't fail black americans the same way Barak Obama did

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/511358/

and some of this too

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/us/obama ... index.html