Re: Trump is not a joke
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:33 pm
I agree with most of what you guys are posting but... I have a slightly different take away from the problem of PSfB and the 2020 election. Sometime back, Booktalk discussed J.D. Vance’ “Hillbilly Elegy”. Though I didn’t spend the time participating in the discussion (should have but really busy this past year) I did follow the discussion and I did read the book. I don’t think we can ignore at the present the political power that resides throughout the vast region that comprises Appalachia. PSfB made campaign promises to these people and for the most part he has kept or fought for those promises. It’s true that these hillbillies voted against their own interests but that’s just it with these people, they don’t understand their net interest just an at face value. Appalachia has its counter parts throughout the U.S. . PSfB understands his electorate and he’s using that knowledge to his advantage.
Personally I like Warren and Buttigieg, but I’ll vote for a turnip as long as there is a D next to it.
The trick for the Dems is to appeal to the women of Appalachia. Appalachian men, in their minds are benefiting from Trumps policies, nothing PSfB does or says is going to turn them from trump. It’s the single mothers that are truly hurt by the trump regimes policies. The Dems need to get these women to register if they’re not and then need to get them to vote ‘ in the single mothers interests’. If you follow the positions of the Dems you know well that there should be a natural confluence of the two. (Dem policy and single mother needs).
If the main article of impeachment against PSfB is extorting Ukraine to investigate Biden then impeachment fades as Biden fades during the primary season. Mark my words... Biden will not be the nominee.
I don’t agree that PSfB wants out of the White House and I do not agree that he will refuse to abdicate the presidency if he is voted out. Such notions are nonsensical. We the rational people cannot be pulled into the ridiculous, it is for us to point out the logical faults in such incoherent thinking.
It’s interesting in the most bazaar way to imagine...PSfB is not a joke but at the same time he is the biggest joke of all.
Just a few years ago Harry Reid was the biggest jackass in the Senate now its Moscow Mitch. Point is...it’s partisanship, and right now its this libertarian horseshit that is polluting the minds of a generation of politicians and as a result destroying the audacity of hope. What is that hope? . The twentieth century was the American century, the audacity of hope was to build on the shoulders of that great century. With PSfB and his libertarian enablers we’ve moved into a freak version of Thorstein Veblen’s leisure class theory. The problem is that people don’t get this. But there it is. I said PSfB would move the U.S. back to the nineteenth century and he has. Another problem for Dems is that the nineteenth century was a heyday for Appalachia. (man I’m starting to crack myself up)
I question whether PSfB’s tax breaks and taxdodge handouts to the ultra rich nor his trade wars will have much effect on his Appalachian devotees. PSfB’s base is solid, for them trump hasn’t governed in ways that are anyway more criminal than every other politician in history, in fact for many of them he’s quite honest. In a way their correct, PSfB is an open book...(one whose title is “Duh” . )
The common theme here seems to be that despite all the issues confronting PSfB, there appears to be whether by hook or crook, bigger issues confronting the Democrats overcoming PSfB which is...joke worthy, in a sad clownish way itself.
The Dems need to determine what level of libertarianism that they contain within themselves and purge it, then they must go on the attack against the failed test that has been forty years of demeaning Economic Social Darwinism that has brought the world to its current state of putrefaction. I don’t have libertarian sympathies and I have no iota of fear about there being a totalitarian government ever...in the U.S. . Ultimately we’re to honest...deluded?, maybe..Above all, rationality has to win the day.
Impeachment of PSfB should move forward, let it play out, its just another part of the pent-up freak show we fascinate ourselves with.
I’m starting to get cynical so for now “good night”
Personally I like Warren and Buttigieg, but I’ll vote for a turnip as long as there is a D next to it.
The trick for the Dems is to appeal to the women of Appalachia. Appalachian men, in their minds are benefiting from Trumps policies, nothing PSfB does or says is going to turn them from trump. It’s the single mothers that are truly hurt by the trump regimes policies. The Dems need to get these women to register if they’re not and then need to get them to vote ‘ in the single mothers interests’. If you follow the positions of the Dems you know well that there should be a natural confluence of the two. (Dem policy and single mother needs).
If the main article of impeachment against PSfB is extorting Ukraine to investigate Biden then impeachment fades as Biden fades during the primary season. Mark my words... Biden will not be the nominee.
I don’t agree that PSfB wants out of the White House and I do not agree that he will refuse to abdicate the presidency if he is voted out. Such notions are nonsensical. We the rational people cannot be pulled into the ridiculous, it is for us to point out the logical faults in such incoherent thinking.
It’s interesting in the most bazaar way to imagine...PSfB is not a joke but at the same time he is the biggest joke of all.
Just a few years ago Harry Reid was the biggest jackass in the Senate now its Moscow Mitch. Point is...it’s partisanship, and right now its this libertarian horseshit that is polluting the minds of a generation of politicians and as a result destroying the audacity of hope. What is that hope? . The twentieth century was the American century, the audacity of hope was to build on the shoulders of that great century. With PSfB and his libertarian enablers we’ve moved into a freak version of Thorstein Veblen’s leisure class theory. The problem is that people don’t get this. But there it is. I said PSfB would move the U.S. back to the nineteenth century and he has. Another problem for Dems is that the nineteenth century was a heyday for Appalachia. (man I’m starting to crack myself up)
I question whether PSfB’s tax breaks and taxdodge handouts to the ultra rich nor his trade wars will have much effect on his Appalachian devotees. PSfB’s base is solid, for them trump hasn’t governed in ways that are anyway more criminal than every other politician in history, in fact for many of them he’s quite honest. In a way their correct, PSfB is an open book...(one whose title is “Duh” . )
The common theme here seems to be that despite all the issues confronting PSfB, there appears to be whether by hook or crook, bigger issues confronting the Democrats overcoming PSfB which is...joke worthy, in a sad clownish way itself.
The Dems need to determine what level of libertarianism that they contain within themselves and purge it, then they must go on the attack against the failed test that has been forty years of demeaning Economic Social Darwinism that has brought the world to its current state of putrefaction. I don’t have libertarian sympathies and I have no iota of fear about there being a totalitarian government ever...in the U.S. . Ultimately we’re to honest...deluded?, maybe..Above all, rationality has to win the day.
Impeachment of PSfB should move forward, let it play out, its just another part of the pent-up freak show we fascinate ourselves with.
I’m starting to get cynical so for now “good night”