Ch.11 Epistles (On the Historicity of Jesus - Carrier)
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 5:26 am
On the Epistles of Saint Paul – Disproof of the Historical Jesus Hypothesis
This chapter of On the Historicity of Jesus presents powerful compelling proof that Jesus Christ was invented and did not exist. The key reason is that Paul’s epistles, and the other letters in the New Testament, are what we would expect to see if Jesus did not exist, and are not what we would expect to see if Jesus did exist. Analyzed forensically, which means looking at the text as it is rather than as what we imagine based on tradition, the arguments marshalled by Richard Carrier in this chapter present irrefutable evidence proving the mythicist hypothesis that Jesus Christ was invented.
Carrier starts with an example of an ancient letter describing a person, which is roughly what Paul’s 20,000 words are purported to do. A real letter about a person, Pliny’s letter to Tacitus about his father, provides numerous personal facts, answering the curiosity of the reader about what the elder Pliny was like and how he lived and died. Paul does nothing of the sort in his letters about the Son of God. And none of his readers express any curiosity about this surprising omission. Paul fails to provide “even one word on the obvious and burning issues of the facts of Jesus’ life and death” (p512).
Odd. Surely the teachings of Jesus would have helped answer the questions raised by churches in Rome, Corinth and Galatia? Not for Paul. His sources are not eyewitnesses, but scripture. Even where he directly describes Jesus, in 1 Corinthians 15, it is solely the Risen Christ, and his source is only “according to the scriptures”, not according to witnesses.
If you react that surely Paul was talking about Jesus of Nazareth, you are guilty of fallacious reasoning. Apart from the total placelessness of Paul’s Jesus (ie no Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee or Jerusalem), Carrier points out that such a conventional gut reaction involves pernicious bias. As Carrier says on page 514, “consensus is not an intrinsically reliable guide to what is true in history.” Sound method is to ask how likely the available evidence would be against your hypothesis. Traditional belief in Jesus entirely fails to apply this simple test of logic. What would Paul write if Jesus was invented, and what would he write if Jesus was real? This is the cutting question that blows apart all literal faith in Jesus. For applying this method proves that Jesus was not real.
Among Paul’s hundreds of mentions of Jesus, “not one connects Jesus with an earthly life… Paul’s Jesus is only ever in the heavens” (515). No historical details, no memories from those who knew him, even incidentally.
All that takes some contorted rationalizing by traditionalists, for example with the argument that Paul was not interested in the life of Jesus, who supposedly founded Christianity. The lack of interest in Jesus extends to evidence of the debates Paul had, none of which referred back to the authority of Jesus. As Carrier says, all this is just bizarre. But it is readily explained by understanding that the early church viewed Jesus Christ as an imaginary fantasy, revealed only in scripture. Indeed, Paul’s critics in Galatia specifically say they do not trust human testimony, preferring revelation (ie Jesus as pure spirit).
Paul tells the Galatians he received his gospel only by revelation, and “in Romans 15:3-4 Paul even appears to say we have to learn things about Jesus by discovering them in scripture; Paul apparently knew nothing about any community of witnesses [and] even appears to deny any such sources existed in 1 Cor 4.6” (516). “The simplest hypothesis for why Paul never showed any interest in the historical Jesus [is] because there was no historical Jesus” (517).
Apologetic claims that Paul and all the earliest Christians just weren’t interested in anything Jesus did or taught in his life are incredibly lame. Even though Jesus was supposedly God on earth and the founder of their religion. “Desperately illogical” (518) is what Carrier says about that conventional idea, given that the modern church has it both ways. There was supposedly no interest in what Jesus did or taught at a time when “eyewitnesses were supposedly still living, abundant and running the church. That’s weird.” (519)
Understanding this upending of conventional opinion requires “scholars to rethink the sequence of events” (521). The fact is, all traditions of sayings and narratives about Jesus only appear in the record later than Paul, a fact concealed by the church by its strategic placement of the Epistles after the Gospels in the New Testament. As Carrier notes, “the Gospels were in fact fabricated out of the sayings of Paul” (521).
Carrier summarizes his critique of Pauline Christ Historicism in these words: “it is simply not conceivable that the historical Jesus never said or did anything, nor was anything ever said or done to him, that was relevant to resolving any dispute or supporting any teaching raised in these letters” (523). No curiosity, no incidental details, nothing. In a letter all about someone you would naturally expect it to have something about them in it.
So the faithful come up with another excuse. They say Paul did not want to draw attention to the fact that he did not know Jesus in person. To which Carrier makes the withering refutation that “if it was a weakness he would constantly have to address it head on. Because it would constantly be thrown in his face … yet there is no sign in his letters that it was. This is therefore just another made-up excuse, for which we have no evidence, and ample evidence to the contrary… Only if there were no witnesses would revelation be the defining feature of apostolic authority.” (525-6) That role of revelation is exactly what we see in Galatians. Paul’s supposed anxiety about not being a witness is “a modern fiction”.
Next we have the so-called ‘super apostles’ of 2 Cor 11-12. Far from being those with a direct link to Jesus, these are defined by Paul as being better speakers, illustrating that Christianity was all about telling a convincing story, not about evidence. And the range of Jesuses described in this chapter are meaningless if there really was just one Jesus, with accuracy of testimony based on actual knowledge of him.
What all this material amply demonstrates is the obvious fact that our records of the first century have been heavily selected by two thousand years of Christian censorship, burning everything that conflicted with their dogma. And yet, the dogma itself is a naked emperor, with Paul’s Epistles, only referring to an imagined Jesus, never a real one. Analysed forensically, the fugitive traces of the real history are present as the only plausible basis of the actual text we have.
This chapter of On the Historicity of Jesus presents powerful compelling proof that Jesus Christ was invented and did not exist. The key reason is that Paul’s epistles, and the other letters in the New Testament, are what we would expect to see if Jesus did not exist, and are not what we would expect to see if Jesus did exist. Analyzed forensically, which means looking at the text as it is rather than as what we imagine based on tradition, the arguments marshalled by Richard Carrier in this chapter present irrefutable evidence proving the mythicist hypothesis that Jesus Christ was invented.
Carrier starts with an example of an ancient letter describing a person, which is roughly what Paul’s 20,000 words are purported to do. A real letter about a person, Pliny’s letter to Tacitus about his father, provides numerous personal facts, answering the curiosity of the reader about what the elder Pliny was like and how he lived and died. Paul does nothing of the sort in his letters about the Son of God. And none of his readers express any curiosity about this surprising omission. Paul fails to provide “even one word on the obvious and burning issues of the facts of Jesus’ life and death” (p512).
Odd. Surely the teachings of Jesus would have helped answer the questions raised by churches in Rome, Corinth and Galatia? Not for Paul. His sources are not eyewitnesses, but scripture. Even where he directly describes Jesus, in 1 Corinthians 15, it is solely the Risen Christ, and his source is only “according to the scriptures”, not according to witnesses.
If you react that surely Paul was talking about Jesus of Nazareth, you are guilty of fallacious reasoning. Apart from the total placelessness of Paul’s Jesus (ie no Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee or Jerusalem), Carrier points out that such a conventional gut reaction involves pernicious bias. As Carrier says on page 514, “consensus is not an intrinsically reliable guide to what is true in history.” Sound method is to ask how likely the available evidence would be against your hypothesis. Traditional belief in Jesus entirely fails to apply this simple test of logic. What would Paul write if Jesus was invented, and what would he write if Jesus was real? This is the cutting question that blows apart all literal faith in Jesus. For applying this method proves that Jesus was not real.
Among Paul’s hundreds of mentions of Jesus, “not one connects Jesus with an earthly life… Paul’s Jesus is only ever in the heavens” (515). No historical details, no memories from those who knew him, even incidentally.
All that takes some contorted rationalizing by traditionalists, for example with the argument that Paul was not interested in the life of Jesus, who supposedly founded Christianity. The lack of interest in Jesus extends to evidence of the debates Paul had, none of which referred back to the authority of Jesus. As Carrier says, all this is just bizarre. But it is readily explained by understanding that the early church viewed Jesus Christ as an imaginary fantasy, revealed only in scripture. Indeed, Paul’s critics in Galatia specifically say they do not trust human testimony, preferring revelation (ie Jesus as pure spirit).
Paul tells the Galatians he received his gospel only by revelation, and “in Romans 15:3-4 Paul even appears to say we have to learn things about Jesus by discovering them in scripture; Paul apparently knew nothing about any community of witnesses [and] even appears to deny any such sources existed in 1 Cor 4.6” (516). “The simplest hypothesis for why Paul never showed any interest in the historical Jesus [is] because there was no historical Jesus” (517).
Apologetic claims that Paul and all the earliest Christians just weren’t interested in anything Jesus did or taught in his life are incredibly lame. Even though Jesus was supposedly God on earth and the founder of their religion. “Desperately illogical” (518) is what Carrier says about that conventional idea, given that the modern church has it both ways. There was supposedly no interest in what Jesus did or taught at a time when “eyewitnesses were supposedly still living, abundant and running the church. That’s weird.” (519)
Understanding this upending of conventional opinion requires “scholars to rethink the sequence of events” (521). The fact is, all traditions of sayings and narratives about Jesus only appear in the record later than Paul, a fact concealed by the church by its strategic placement of the Epistles after the Gospels in the New Testament. As Carrier notes, “the Gospels were in fact fabricated out of the sayings of Paul” (521).
Carrier summarizes his critique of Pauline Christ Historicism in these words: “it is simply not conceivable that the historical Jesus never said or did anything, nor was anything ever said or done to him, that was relevant to resolving any dispute or supporting any teaching raised in these letters” (523). No curiosity, no incidental details, nothing. In a letter all about someone you would naturally expect it to have something about them in it.
So the faithful come up with another excuse. They say Paul did not want to draw attention to the fact that he did not know Jesus in person. To which Carrier makes the withering refutation that “if it was a weakness he would constantly have to address it head on. Because it would constantly be thrown in his face … yet there is no sign in his letters that it was. This is therefore just another made-up excuse, for which we have no evidence, and ample evidence to the contrary… Only if there were no witnesses would revelation be the defining feature of apostolic authority.” (525-6) That role of revelation is exactly what we see in Galatians. Paul’s supposed anxiety about not being a witness is “a modern fiction”.
Next we have the so-called ‘super apostles’ of 2 Cor 11-12. Far from being those with a direct link to Jesus, these are defined by Paul as being better speakers, illustrating that Christianity was all about telling a convincing story, not about evidence. And the range of Jesuses described in this chapter are meaningless if there really was just one Jesus, with accuracy of testimony based on actual knowledge of him.
What all this material amply demonstrates is the obvious fact that our records of the first century have been heavily selected by two thousand years of Christian censorship, burning everything that conflicted with their dogma. And yet, the dogma itself is a naked emperor, with Paul’s Epistles, only referring to an imagined Jesus, never a real one. Analysed forensically, the fugitive traces of the real history are present as the only plausible basis of the actual text we have.