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The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:36 pm
by Chris OConnor
The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:59 pm
by KayR
What drew me to this book was the idea of exploring what is sane reality and what is insane "fantasy."
"I think, therefore I am" is enough to prove we exist, but how do we know we are sane? How do we know the experiences perceived in our mind are real?
The first chapter stresses that there are no clear beginnings or endings--an idea that resonates strongly with me. As a genealogist I see the past constantly overlapping with the present and the future. I am shaped by my parents' experiences, which were shaped by their parents, and all the way back to bacteria and the first self-regenerating organic molecule. There is always a cause behind any beginning.
The author's writing style evokes a sense of a drowning person frantically grabbing at a rescuer. Imp, the narrator, frenetically records stray bits of reality, almost as though afraid of getting swept away if she doesn't hold onto reality hard enough. What a nightmare not to be able to trust your perception of reality to be true. It reminds me of being in the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989: the earth--my stable, take-it-for-granted motionless earth--began writhing and rolling. The memory still fills me with revulsion.
So far, great book.

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:34 am
by Suzanne
I am charmed, enchanted and smitten by this novel. I am about half way through, so I will try hard not to give anything away. This first chapter is a foundation to what is to come, however, for those of you who may want to stop reading this novel due to the simple writing, I would urge you to continue. This novel is layered and has an abundance of intriguing stories.

The title of this novel; The Drowning Girl, comes from an actual painting of the same name. Here is a link to the image:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... CC0Q9QEwAA

What I find intriguing about the writing style, and you will notice this too, is the switching from first and third person narration. Also, the use of quotes is interesting. This brings up questions. Who is this third person narrator? And, what is being written using quotations?

I am just going with the flow of the novel. Because I am further along I will curtail my comments, except to say that the writing style is very deliberate. Kiernan writes with a purpose, she in this chapter has laid a foundation and in the coming chapters this foundation grows stronger.
KayR wrote:The author's writing style evokes a sense of a drowning person frantically grabbing at a rescuer. Imp, the narrator, frenetically records stray bits of reality, almost as though afraid of getting swept away if she doesn't hold onto reality hard enough.
This is interesting KayR. You say Imp records stray bits of reality, does she? Where does her reality come from? I need to disagree with you about Imp's need to grab a rescuer. What does she need to be rescued from?

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:40 pm
by KayR
Suzanne: Catch up with commenting on the chapters you've read before you go forward! Otherwise you'll spoil the experience!

Suzanne wrote
You say Imp records stray bits of reality, does she? Where does her reality come from? I need to disagree with you about Imp's need to grab a rescuer. What does she need to be rescued from?
By stray bits of reality, I mean details that aren't of consequence: the address of Butler Hospital (345 Blackstone Boulevard), or the location of The Drowning Girlin the RISD ("today [it] hangs much nearer the Benefit Street entrance than it did when I was a kid.... It hangs between William Bradford's Arctic Sunset (1874) and Winslow Homer's On a Lee Shore (1900)."). She knows some of her memories never actually occurred, so it's like she's latching onto reality--sanity--by using facts to keep her grounded.

And regarding
Who is this third person narrator? And, what is being written using quotations?
my guess at this point in the book is that this is an aspect of her schizophrenia, that she's seeing herself at a removal.

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:29 am
by bfcochran12
Hmmmmm interesting novel! The idea of the main character is absolutely fascinating, trying to determine wether or not her memories are real. I am definitely excited for what is to come. :) The idea of also titling a book based off a painting intrigues me and makes me curious as to the connection, but I'm sure we will find out! I also find Kiernan's writing style to be simplistic, but not boring. Sometimes simplistic writing isn't complex enough to keep the story going, but Kiernan does a good job with descriptions and giving us a mental picture that is clear, but still up for interpretation.
The first chapter stresses that there are no clear beginnings or endings--an idea that resonates strongly with me. As a genealogist I see the past constantly overlapping with the present and the future.
KayR, I found it interesting that you bring this up and I agree. A beginning and an ending is simply a boundary. Something always happens before the beginning, and after the ending. I like the idea of using our minds to sort of make up what happens afterwards. I'm excited to read the rest of this novel! Can't wait!

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:33 pm
by Cattleman
Okay, I have the book (Kindle Edition) and have read Chapter 1. I must say, so far it is not what I expected - maybe I should curb my expectations? :? Okay, my expectations were based on the fact that the book won the Bram Stoker award; guess I was looking for some immediate spooky mansion :twisted: ; though Imp does talk about ghosts. I have enjoyed what I have read so far. I liked the references to "The Little Mermaid" and "Little Red Riding Hood." I have done some background checking; nothing very deep, and find that several of Ms. Kiernan's other novels also touch on the boundary between reality and fantasy. I want to do a little more research into some of the painters she mentions. Are they all real, or fictional characters? :?

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:11 pm
by KayR
I want to do a little more research into some of the painters she mentions. Are they all real, or fictional characters?
Saltonstall the painter and his piece The Drowning Girl are real. Perrault is fictional.

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:07 pm
by giselle
KayR wrote:
I want to do a little more research into some of the painters she mentions. Are they all real, or fictional characters?
Saltonstall the painter and his piece The Drowning Girl are real. Perrault is fictional.
Interesting to look at the The Drowning Girl painting itself, I inserted a link below. There may not be a lot of ghosts or creepy mansions in Chapter 1 but Imp is definitely haunted by ghosts inside her head. The blurring of lines between reality and fantasy, truth and fact and fiction or lies seems to create so much uncertainty for her, like vapors without substance.

weirdfictionreview.com/2012/03/novel-ex ... ning-girl/

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:10 pm
by Cattleman
Thanks KayR, that is what I was thinking, just wanted to be sure. If Perrault had been real, would have liked to see some of his work.

Re: The Drowning Girl - Chapter 1

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:11 pm
by KayR
One of the advantages of reading the Kindle edition is that it's easy to just flip to the web and check stuff out--which also becomes one of the disadvantages of reading the Kindle edition.