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Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:32 pm
by Suzanne
LOST MEMORY OF SKIN

Russell Banks

Part three, chapters; one, two, three and four

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:26 pm
by lindad_amato
In Ch. 1 the Kid answers our earlier question about the nicknames the offenders use. He says, "There's something tainted about their old names"......"a new name like Kid......can be liberating in a small way." We've seen how the Prof. also has assumed different identities in order to hide his various lives. I wonder who will turn out to be more duplicitous.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:18 am
by giselle
I see a new theme in Part 3 .. people's lives as a narrative .. in this case, the Kid and the Professor. The fact that neither of these characters have really firm narratives ... the Kid doesn't know who he is and really lacks a discernible identity and the Professor is several people at the same time, he is everybody and nobody .. this sets up the idea of life narrative ... what is the narrative of these characters lives and by association as readers, what is our life narrative?

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:14 pm
by WildCityWoman
Oops - got a feeling I commented on this 4th chapter on the wrong thread ... ha ha! I'm getting mixed up with this Part business.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:18 pm
by WildCityWoman
Anyway ... in chapter 4 of this PART, I got a very strong impression of the 'kid' really being a kid ... the professor and the map - he was so impressed with that. Even though the Prof really was only kidding him - 'the kid' was really entranced with the idea that it could have been a map from Capt Kydd's time.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:38 pm
by giselle
The Kid seems to behave in two extremely different ways, hard to believe they exist in one person. On one hand, he is gullible, naiive and childlike, too trusting, and on the other hand he is hardened by his life experiences and doesn't trust anyone. He seems to move between these two poles ... I think perhaps caused by not knowing who he is, lack of identity, lack of power to control his own life and lack of a story of his own past that he understands.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:44 pm
by Suzanne
I have just finished reading "Blindness" by Jose Saramago and in this novel the characters do not have proper names. The same is true for the characters in Cormac McCarthy's "The Road". Does anyone feel that these authors all have the same intent and want to portray their characters the same way? As the novel progresses the lack of names does invoke sympathy in me. It's almost like the men who live under the causeway have had their humanity sripped away and they are no longer human beings, they are only sex offenders. I can't help but think that Banks wants me to decide if these men are more than sex offenders that they are also human beings. Men in jail live better than these men do. They have been released from jail but live a sub human exsistance.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:45 pm
by giselle
Suzanne wrote:I have just finished reading "Blindness" by Jose Saramago and in this novel the characters do not have proper names. The same is true for the characters in Cormac McCarthy's "The Road". Does anyone feel that these authors all have the same intent and want to portray their characters the same way?
I have not read Blindness but comparing McCarthy's and Banks' book/characters, I would say there is some similarity in that the authors created rather generic characters by not naming them and that these characters 'found' themselves in their relationship with the other unnamed character. The setting for this is completely different though. McCarthy's characters were struggling with the aftermath of a holocaust (I think) but Banks characters are struggling with the aftermath of their own choices. Sadly for the Kid, his conviction as a sex offender is equivalent to a holocaust in his life and I am seeing him more as a victim now than I did earlier in the book.

Strange that a book that has so much 'pervasive' sex, as noted on another thread, actually does not have actual sex scenes, as far as I have read anyway. It's all in the background, or in the past, or porn or just a potentiality ... I think this produces a strong sense of sex without intimacy, a disassociation of sex from normally attendant feelings.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:28 pm
by Damifino
These 4 chapters moved slowly for me.

At least the Professor gave him the so called treasure map. Figure the Kid will now fantasize about finding buried treasure instead of other things. Those other things no longer appeal to him anyways.

Re: Lost Memory of Skin, Prt. 3, chapters; 1-4

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:13 pm
by lindad_amato
Wow Damifino, you're moving through this quickly. I hope you're enjoying the book so far. What do you think of the relationship between the Prof. and the Kid at this point? I'm still not trusting the Prof. He seems to be mocking the Kid.