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No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:34 pm
by ant
https://sixdayscience.com/2016/07/04/le ... e-atheist/
So if as a new atheist you've at one time or another used this idiotic mythical claim, please stop.
And please stop equivocating when someone asks you the direct question -
ARE YOU AN ATHEIST?
That fallacious rhetorical tactic is getting really old.
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:20 pm
by Dexter
ant wrote:
And please stop equivocating when someone asks you the direct question - ARE YOU AN ATHEIST?
That fallacious rhetorical tactic is getting really old.
What fallacious rhetorical tactic are you referring to?
Are you a theist?
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:05 pm
by ant
Dexter wrote:ant wrote:
And please stop equivocating when someone asks you the direct question - ARE YOU AN ATHEIST?
That fallacious rhetorical tactic is getting really old.
What fallacious rhetorical tactic are you referring to?
Are you a theist?
I'm a philosophical agnostic/theist
How bout you?
You lack belief in deities.. much the same as a rock, or a tree, or a lizard would be, right?
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:54 pm
by LanDroid
Back to the poll, it indicates about 41% of scientists are non-believers. Sarah Salviander says that "is still rather high given that only 4% of the general U.S. population identifies that way..." Rather high??? I don't recall anyone quoting the 93% figure in the thread title, but 10X the general population is a huge difference.
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:47 pm
by Chris OConnor
The bottom line is there is a clear positive relationship between science education and atheism. Wouldn't you agree, ant? I mean you cannot really deny this correlation can you?
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:47 am
by Dexter
ant wrote:
How bout you?
You lack belief in deities.. much the same as a rock, or a tree, or a lizard would be, right?
Yes I lack belief in deities, therefore I'm an atheist.
I'm not sure I get your point, you're saying a rock is an atheist, just like me?
https://www.google.com/search?client=sa ... definition
ant wrote:I'm a philosophical agnostic/theist
Don't equivocate now, are you a theist or not? What kind of God do you believe in?
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:06 pm
by Cattleman
Not sure if I want to dabble my toes in this ocean (or puddle, take your pick), it tends to make my head hurt.
93%, 41% or 4%, I am automatically leery of all surveys. I could go into my reasons, but that would require an entirely different thread.
Suffice it to say, that only once in my life have I participated in what I consider a bona fide survey.
As to ant's question, "ARE YOU AN ATHEIST?" my answer is no, I am an agnostic. I do not know if there is a higher power, be it God, Allah, Odin, or Mumo-Jumbo. Nor do I believe we can know in this life
And please, no quotations of scripture (from any religion, see above).
But I recognize the right or any person to his or her opinion.
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:05 pm
by ant
Agnosticism is the honest and rational choice for new atheism and its equivocations.
Anything else is gross dishonesty and petty rhetoric.
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:15 pm
by geo
You should list some deities, and I'd be happy to tell you if I believe in them or not.
Re: No, 93% of all scientists are NOT Atheists
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:47 pm
by ant
geo wrote:You should list some deities, and I'd be happy to tell you if I believe in them or not.
This is a common new atheism fallacy - multiple representations of a thing exclude the existence of the thing itself.
It's typical shoddy new atheism logic spread by uncredentialed backwards philosophers that impress their imbecilic "logic" on naive sheeple