Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME ENTER FORUMS OUR BOOKS LINKS DONATE ADVERTISE CONTACT  
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:48 pm





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average. 
A.I. Anxiety 
Author Message
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

Platinum Contributor
Book Discussion Leader

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6372
Location: Luray, Virginia
Thanks: 1851
Thanked: 2042 times in 1545 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post A.I. Anxiety
Johnson 1010 had a thread a while back with the great title, "I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords." Thought of that as I read the story "A.I. Anxiety" by Joel Achenbach, a science writer for the Washington Post. It's a good survey of the promise and peril of A.I. that some people might enjoy reading. It seems that, just as with the development of the atomic bomb, some of the scientists most outspoken about the dangers of A.I. are the ones most on the cutting edge of that very field, such as Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/nation ... aianxiety/



Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:01 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

Gold Contributor

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5481
Thanks: 1302
Thanked: 889 times in 763 posts
Gender: None specified
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: A.I. Anxiety
I've just started reading this one. You might like it as well..,

http://www.amazon.com/Intelligence-Unbo ... 1118736281

Thanks for that link! I love this topic!



Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:26 am
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Tenured Professor


Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3564
Location: Michigan
Thanks: 1321
Thanked: 1150 times in 843 posts
Gender: Male

Post Re: A.I. Anxiety
well hold on now,

are Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking really at the fore front of A.I.?
Hawking is a physicist who works a lot on black holes. Musk is an inventor and entrepreneur.
Maybe these guys think about this topic a lot... so do I! But I don't think that qualifies them.

The people at the fore are probably the folks at places making Watson, on one end, and Boston Dynamics, at the other. Cognition, and world interactivity respectively. These are the people I would like to hear from. How far are they from actually getting where they are trying to go? How goddam frustrating is it to inch forward in those fields?

Think of old sci fi movies. They were thinking that AI could happen on the equivalent of your cell-phone's hardware. Far less!
There are chat bots now that can pretty reliably beat the turing test... but I doubt anyone here would think that those chat bots are sentient. It's more an indication of how easy it is to fool people!

I'm betting we are still pretty far off from the AI we have all been programmed to fear... no matter how creepy big dog is.


_________________
In the absence of God, I found Man.
-Guillermo Del Torro

Have you tried that? Looking for answers?
Or have you been content to be terrified of a thing you know nothing about?

Are you pushing your own short comings on us and safely hating them from a distance?

Is this the virtue of faith? To never change your mind: especially when you should?

Young Earth Creationists take offense at the idea that we have a common heritage with other animals. Why is being the descendant of a mud golem any better?

Confidence being an expectation built on past experience, evidence and extrapolation to the future. Faith being an expectation held in defiance of past experience and evidence.


The following user would like to thank johnson1010 for this post:
DWill
Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:02 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

Gold Contributor

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 5481
Thanks: 1302
Thanked: 889 times in 763 posts
Gender: None specified
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: A.I. Anxiety
The deeper I delve into AI or AGI the more questions I run into that are not typically discussed.

Here are two that some of you who like a challenge can attempt to answer:

Would the full development of AI be better off and safer if it were worked on and accomplished by a private company of hand selected individuals, or if it was an open source endeavor (like Linux)?

As a safety measure against a potential runaway AI that might very well endanger the existence of a much inferior species (namely us) how would you go about programing it for a bias towards friendliness? What methodology would you use?



Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:53 pm
Profile Email
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average. 



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:



Site Resources 
HELPFUL INFO:
Forum Rules & Tips
Frequently Asked Questions
BBCode Explained
Author Interview Transcripts
Be a Book Discussion Leader!

IDEAS FOR WHAT TO READ:
Bestsellers
Book Awards
• Book Reviews
• Online Books
• Team Picks
Newspaper Book Sections

WHERE TO BUY BOOKS:
• Great resource pages are coming!

BEHIND THE BOOKS:
• Great resource pages are coming!

PROMOTE YOUR BOOK!
Advertise on BookTalk.org
How To Promote Your Book





BookTalk.org is a thriving book discussion forum, online reading group or book club. We read and talk about both fiction and non-fiction books as a community. Our forums are open to anyone in the world. While discussing books is our passion we also have active forums for talking about poetry, short stories, writing and authors. Our general discussion forum section includes forums for discussing science, religion, philosophy, politics, history, current events, arts, entertainment and more. We hope you join us!


Navigation 
MAIN NAVIGATION

HOMEFORUMSOUR BOOKSAUTHOR INTERVIEWSADVERTISELINKSFAQDONATETERMS OF USEPRIVACY POLICYSITEMAP

OTHER PAGES WORTH EXPLORING
Banned Book ListOnline Reading GroupTop 10 Atheism Books

Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2019. All rights reserved.
Display Pagerank