I'm wrong about Democrats having majority in the Senate. The two newest Senators from Georgia will be sworn in later this month.

And besides, the Senate needs two-thirds majority to remove a president from office. So likely we'd have the same result as the last time Trump was impeached.

While we're waiting for another insurrection, on Biden's inauguration date perhaps, it will be interesting to see if Trump pardons any of the insurrectionists who are being charged. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

There is nothing in the constitution that says a president can or cannot be impeached after leaving office. It's never been challenged in court and until it is, we don't know how it will shake out. There is the belief that Congress can impeach a former present to prevent him from holding office again. But where do we draw the line? Idiots like Matt Gaetz want to impeach Obama. He said we can impeach a former president but there is nothing in the Constitution that backs him but also nothing that says he's wrong either. So, a time limit would have to be imposed. Say that a president can be impeached within 2 weeks of leaving office or a month. Going back and impeaching a president who left office years ago and is not seeking to run again or, as in Obama's case, cannot run again seems a time-waster but we'll need to have a provision for it so that morons like Gaetz don't try to abuse it.

DWill wrote:Trump did a lot worse with white men than in 2016, but several percentage points better with women and minorities, according to The Guardian. That doesn't mean racial grudges didn't motivate many of his voters, but of course it rules out racism for his minority voters. There seems to be wide liking for the "No bullshit!" vibe they get from Trump. He's destructive, and that's not a bad rap for his admirers. If Washington politicians represent for them the swamp, they'll like the guy who treats government with absolute contempt. White resentment is a big part, yes, but it appears that other groups participate in the resentment, too, and have things in common with whites.

Some whites turned away from Trump because he was trying to do away with their social security and healthcare insurance. Some suspected he was playing the race angle to take white people's minds off the sleight-of-hand he was pulling. As for black support, it's somewhat of a myth that blacks hate Trump. To many young blacks, Trump has ALWAYS represented hope to them in the sad, pathetic Tony Montana way. Trump touted this "lift yourself up from your bootstraps" idea of success rather than more welfare and that attracted blacks who didn't like being perceived as a bunch of pathetic welfare cases. That Trump had a bevy of famous rappers like 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, Kanye and the like stumping for him played a role (at least Snoop had enough sense to hate him). It was a macho thing just like it is among whites--real men like Trump and wussy men like Biden.

But if you take the racist appeal of Trump away, his support among whites utterly plummets. Both the whites and blacks that love Trump are, to me, stupid. Trump was born rich, he never lifted himself up by his bootstraps. He discriminated against blacks in his real estate but they're going to trust Trump to provide decent housing for them? He called for the lynching of the Central Park 5 even after they were proven innocent and blacks think Trump is about law and order and will make their communities safer? Does a great deal-maker call an Iranian bigwig to the bargaining table and then have him assassinated as he steps out of his limo??? Did these average blacks not understand that rappers supported him because they are rich and Trump made them promises that will NEVER help the average black?? But Trump has always had a mysteriously large black male following.

It wouldn't be a hard civics lesson to teach kids, looking at the Capitol riot: Lies have consequences.

DB Roy wrote:As for black support, it's somewhat of a myth that blacks hate Trump. To many young blacks, Trump has ALWAYS represented hope to them in the sad, pathetic Tony Montana way.
... But Trump has always had a mysteriously large black male following.

Here's a fact check. Although Trump's vote increased among blacks slightly over 2016, they were still overwhelmingly against him in 2020. Disclaimer: too early to have extremely accurate results on the 2020 election.

Black voters steer America toward moral clarity in presidential race
African American voters were a critical demographic that helped determine the final outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

About 87% of Black voters nationwide chose Biden over Trump, according to preliminary national exit polling. Those early exit polls show that 19% of Black men voted for Trump, as did 9% of Black women.

An Associated Press VoteCast survey showed overall larger Black support for Biden — 90%. According to the AP survey, 12% of Black men voted for Trump, while only 6% of Black women supported him.

11/12/2020
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 222692002/

geo wrote: While we're waiting for another insurrection, on Biden's inauguration date perhaps, it will be interesting to see if Trump pardons any of the insurrectionists who are being charged. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

Don't hold your breath. Trump has already distanced himself from that mob. It wouldn't make sense to suddenly pardon them. Nor does it benefit him in any way to do so. He's probably going to get charged for playing a part in that so why would he pardon people whose actions will get him charged? Don't count on Trump to help them at all. Trump always turns his back on the people who break the law trying to help him. He pushes them to do it and then when they do it, he disavows any part in the law-breaking.

Remember when he told supporters at his rallies to go ahead and assault his hecklers and that he would pay their legal fees? Name a single person who was charged with assault whose legal fees he's paid. That's who he is.

LanDroid wrote:
About 87% of Black voters nationwide chose Biden over Trump, according to preliminary national exit polling. Those early exit polls show that 19% of Black men voted for Trump, as did 9% of Black women.

An Associated Press VoteCast survey showed overall larger Black support for Biden — 90%. According to the AP survey, 12% of Black men voted for Trump, while only 6% of Black women supported him.

11/12/2020
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 222692002/

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Okay, I give up. First I'm told that Trump had even more black support then he did in 2016 now I'm told it was insignificant. Stick to one argument or the other.

This is not complicated. Although Trump's support among blacks increased slightly over 2016, that support is still insignificant => at 10% to 13% <= as the stats I just posted indicate.

Is it just me?
Is there something easy in the air?
Have the American people changed the course of history, yet again?
After these past 2 weeks for me personally there is a peace of mind. Former President Shit for Brains is gone. .

The new acronym: FPSfB

But seriously folks.. Is it just me?

What scandals are in store under a Biden administration?

I had some concerns in my mind. So, I asked my libertarian/conservative/GOP friends if they thought that due to the fact that the entire FPSfB family has decided to take up full time residency here in the State of Florida, that there may be an attempt by the Trumps to be influential/dominant in this states politics. I have been surprised by the response from my FPSfB friends in regards to that question.

The response I get is, the Trump family’s done.

There’s speculation as to potential attempts at some sort of public platform like podcasts or radio, perhaps even a version of a “news” network but no real sense of a future influence.

I’m wondering what it was like for Herbert Hoover, someone who experienced a similarly failed departure from the White House. Hoover built a dam.. FPSfB built a section of border wall.

It's an amazing achievement considering Trump could have won a second term and the events of 1/6 hint at what we avoided. But I don't feel like celebrating yet. 78% of republicans still support Trump. I expect that to drop significantly. Hard to imagine strong support continuing for someone who lost the House, then the Presidency, then the Senate. More tales of corruption and mental illness will be forthcoming.