Penelope wrote:We plant the seeds and make it possible for them to grow. But something else makes them grow. Something else makes our hearts beat and 'breathes' us. The wonderful thing about gardening is that we are co-operating with this something else.

Penelope, you are a natural mystic with a friendly attitude toward The Great Unknown. But how are we going to have pacemakers and breathing aids if we stop with a mystical "something else"? Colin, remember, wanted science too.

But Colin's science was based off of magical logic. Don't mean to offend anyone but his logic sounds alot like Scientology.

Raving Lunatic wrote:But Colin's science was based off of magical logic. Don't mean to offend anyone but his logic sounds alot like Scientology.

Colin believed he was doing positive thinking experiments, I think, but how are his ideas like Scientology, please?

Tom Hood said:-

But how are we going to have pacemakers and breathing aids if we stop with a mystical "something else"? Colin, remember, wanted science too.

I wouldn't ever suggest that we sit about with our swords wrought into ploughshares......boring!!!

Like Colin, I want Science too. I appreciate scientific discovery, but it doesn't exclude the 'something else'. In fact, the 'something else' provides the inspiration for the scientific discovery.....don't you think,Tom?

Penelope wrote:Like Colin, I want Science too. I appreciate scientific discovery, but it doesn't exclude the 'something else'. In fact, the 'something else' provides the inspiration for the scientific discovery.....don't you think,Tom?

Well, yes, especially in cases like Newton who spent more time on religion than he did on science and mathematics.

Very interesting thread. As I was reading Secret Garden, I thought about the nexus between this "something else" and science. I think this is all about inspiration, the source of inspiration, the life force that moves people. If you know a person well I think you can detect this inspirational force, not by what they do so much, but by the light in their eyes and by their energy. In Colin's case, the gradual awakening of his "something else" inspired him to connect with the people and the natural world around him, manifesting itself in the material world as a blend of Magic and Science and his desire to be a scientist. Colin is a child with an unfortunate past who is coming into his own with the help of his "something else".

giselle said:-

I think this is all about inspiration, the source of inspiration, the life force that moves people.

I don't believe in a 'life force' that moves people. I don't think we are just bodies with spirits attached.....but spirits (life force) inhabiting bodies. In other words, I don't believe the life force is separate from us, but that we are the life force.

Blimey!!! I don't believe I just typed that.

Penelope wrote:I don't believe the life force is separate from us, but that we are the life force.

But we do receive inspiration from the environment, don't we?

penelope

Blimey!!! I don't believe I just typed that

I can't believe that you just said "Blimey". I haven't heard that expression since I was kid and my Dad used to say it. Thanks .. a great memory.

Blimey!!!!!

giselle: It's nearly 8.00pm here, and I'm just trying to persuade my Grandson to get out of the bath, after having persuaded him to get into it in the first place!!!

Blimey!!!! Just call me Supergran!!!