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Islam has a more scientific bend to it than Christianity, but that is just my opinion.


yes. it's also an uninformed opinion.

but this isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.



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Post Re: The Maragha Revolution (Astronomy)
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yes. it's also an uninformed opinion.

but this isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.


Sure ant, troll some more.


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yes. it's also an uninformed opinion.

but this isn't supposed to be a pissing contest.


Sure ant, troll some more.



I create a post titled "The Maragha Revolution" that highlights a little known (safe to say) scientific achievement by Islam, after which two people come in and attempt to redirect the conversation toward yet another attack on Christianity and that makes me a troll?

You claim you've been browsing scholarly articles, after which I ask you to share one that backs your claim that Christianity and Islam have historically fought against the conclusions of science, and I'm trolling because I asked?

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You claim you've been browsing scholarly articles, after which I ask you to share one that backs your claim that Christianity and Islam have historically fought against the conclusions of science, and I'm trolling because I asked?


That's the opposite of what I said. For the third time, you misunderstood me.


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You claim you've been browsing scholarly articles, after which I ask you to share one that backs your claim that Christianity and Islam have historically fought against the conclusions of science, and I'm trolling because I asked?


That's the opposite of what I said. For the third time, you misunderstood me.



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Both sides like to claim responsibility, in spite of fighting against the conclusions of science. It's like a Jerry Springer show. Science is the damned redheaded stepchild that they claim to love and love to hate.


Claim responsibility for what? For giving birth to science?

Show me where Islam has claimed responsibility for the birth of science.

Can you give me an example of Christianity despising science?

(everyone - get ready for a lesson on the Crusades and the Inquisition from Interbane)


you HAVE been watching to much Jerry Springer



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Show me where Islam has claimed responsibility for the birth of science.


http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/20 ... ethod.html

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Can you give me an example of Christianity despising science?


Despising? No. But fighting against the conclusions, sure(the second part of that quoted section is metaphor, if you're wondering). http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/9-scie ... ry-of.html

Here's what I said originally: "I browsed a few scholarly articles, and many employ the theme that Christianity and Islam were parents of science."


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sorry, but that's not the house of Islam claiming or even wanting credit for the birth of science.



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sorry, but that's not the house of Islam claiming or even wanting credit for the birth of science.


Don't be sorry. I wasn't talking about the "house of Islam". Stop trying so hard to straw man me. Go back to the start of this thread, and read everything slowly and carefully, and most importantly, with intellectual empathy.


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sorry, but that's not the house of Islam claiming or even wanting credit for the birth of science.


Don't be sorry. I wasn't talking about the "house of Islam". Stop trying so hard to straw man me. Go back to the start of this thread, and read everything slowly and carefully, and most importantly, with intellectual empathy.



My post was about a key Islamic contribution to science that is little known. Algebra and Optics are the most widely known Islamic contributions.

You're the one strawmanning this with your eagerness to start a harangue about Christianity, pal.



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You're the one strawmanning this with your eagerness to start a harangue about Christianity, pal.


Like I said, go back and read. You misunderstood every post in this thread from me.


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Post Re: The Maragha Revolution (Astronomy)
No matter how far back you go, these scientific ideas were always known by someone.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2010/ ... dha-counts

https://books.google.com/books?id=UOtoB ... am&f=false

http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/ ... harts.html



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