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The Coup against Donald Trump

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The coup's been going on since Trump was elected. Since before he was elected. Obama and the FBI placed moles in the Trump campaign, and they did so knowing that the "evidence" they presented to obtain warrants had been bought and paid for by H. Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. This is probably the greatest domestic crime ever committed by a U.S. President. But Obama skates free, while the media reports 98% negatively on Trump.

But the full-court press to remove Trump will occur soon. The Ides of March? Supreme Court justice Ruth Ginsberg is nearly dead, and the Washington bureaucracy is terrified that another conservative judge will be appointed to the court. So, if Trump and Pence were removed, then the Dems could have Nancy Pelosi (#3 in line of succession) step into the presidency and do the appointment. Pelosi is mafioso by the way. Her father was Thomas D'Alesandro Jr., a made guy with the Luchesse crime family.

Then there's Trump's border wall talk. The CIA and Washington (especially the Democrats) are partnered with the Mexican drug cartels. This is why the Dems insist on NO border stoppages at all...because so many freakin' illegals are muling drugs into the US.

Anyway, anti-Trumpists are now demanding a coup.

Senator Elizabeth Warren Calls for Coup Against President of the United States
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2729 ... greenfield

Dershowitz: FBI Attempted “Coup d’état” in Discussing 25th Amendment To Remove Trump
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/c ... move-trump
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KS wrote:The CIA and Washington (especially the Democrats) are partnered with the Mexican drug cartels. This is why the Dems insist on NO border stoppages at all...because so many freakin' illegals are muling drugs into the US.
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The "coup" that came up recently was FBI speculation about using the 25th Amendment to remove Trump. Maybe such speculation wasn't proper and the critics have a point. But the cabinet plus Pence would have needed to put such a plan in motion; it's not in the power of the FBI. "Coup"is political overkill.
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DWill wrote:The "coup" that came up recently was FBI speculation about using the 25th Amendment to remove Trump.
The big threat was to wear a wire. By implication, if the public knew how Bozo conducts himself, they would agree that he lacks the capacity to do the job. Which is pretty much universally acknowledged by anyone with any professionalism who has worked with him.
DWill wrote:Maybe such speculation wasn't proper and the critics have a point. But the cabinet plus Pence would have needed to put such a plan in motion; it's not in the power of the FBI. "Coup"is political overkill.
Yes, those who are flinging around the term "coup" have put themselves in the same box with Devin Nunes, willing to sacrifice any sense of accuracy and proportion to cast things divisively.

If people really went down that road, interpreting everything in terms of "Us" and "Them", a coup would be the eventual result as it was in Thailand when both sides proved willing to sacrifice all order and common priorities. I fail to see how either of the two "sides" could look forward to that outcome with any optimism, but as we know, humans don't always look ahead to the consequences of their actions when they are in the grip of perceived conflict.

The prediction of some imminent ouster of Dear Leader and his Vice-Leader is horse puckey. Unless Mueller has revelations more dramatic than those which have leaked out so far, there will not even be impeachment.

Of course, I was wrong in predicting that McConnell would stand up to Dear Leader about his emergency declaration, but he has no choice about calling a vote, and even if DL vetos the bill, the vote will speak for itself. McConnell is going down with Trump's ship. I think a person has to be a Southerner to understand that behavior.
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'The greatest constitutional crisis since the Civil War': Conrad Black on how American institutions plotted and schemed in the 2016 election - then blamed Russia

The most immense and dangerous public scandal in American history is finally cracking open like a ripe pomegranate. The broad swath of the Trump-hating media that has participated in what has amounted to an unconstitutional attempt to overthrow the government are reduced to reporting the events and revelations of the scandal in which they have been complicit, in a po-faced ho-hum manner to impart to the misinformed public that this is as routine as stock market fluctuations or the burning of an American flag in Tehran.

For more than two years, the United States and the world have had two competing narratives: that an elected president of the United States was a Russian agent whom the Kremlin helped elect; and its rival narrative that senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and other national intelligence organizations had repeatedly lied under oath, misinformed federal officials, and meddled in partisan political matters illegally and unconstitutionally and had effectively tried to influence the outcome of a presidential election, and then undo its result by falsely propagating the first narrative. It is now obvious and indisputable that the second narrative is the correct one.

The authors, accomplices, and dupes of this attempted overthrow of constitutional government are now well along in reciting their misconduct without embarrassment or remorse because—in fired FBI Director James Comey’s formulation—a “higher duty” than the oath they swore to uphold the Constitution compelled them. Or—in fired FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s words—“the threat” was too great. Nevermind that the nature of “the threat” was that the people might elect someone he and Comey disapproved of as president, and that that person might actually serve his term, as elected....

(Article continues below...absolutely spot on)

dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6737685/ ... Black.html


Democrats Are Reportedly Being Paid Off By Mexican Drug Cartels To Keep The Borders Wide Open
cloverchronicle.com/2019/02/08/democrat ... wide-open/

Mexican Cartels Paid Off Mexican President with $100 Million – Former Democrat Claims Democrat Party Being Paid Millions by Cartels As Well!
thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/mexican-ca ... s-as-well/

Of course, the drug running is part of the Republican Party too. The Reagan/Bush years, Iran-Contra and so on. The Bush family is despicable beyond description.
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kindaskolarly wrote:For more than two years, the United States and the world have had two competing narratives...
No, actually we have at least three conspiracies.
  1. "An elected president of the United States was a Russian agent whom the Kremlin helped elect." In this scenario, the FBI, Justice Department, and Intelligence Agencies are the good guys and Trump is the bad guy.
  2. "Senior officials of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and other national intelligence organizations had repeatedly lied under oath, misinformed federal officials, and meddled in partisan political matters illegally and unconstitutionally and had effectively tried to influence the outcome of a presidential election, and then undo its result by falsely propagating the first narrative." In this one, the FBI, Justice Department, and Intelligence Agencies are the bad guys and Trump is the good guy.
  3. The QAnon conspiracy states that Trump and the military are setting up military tribunals for Hillary, Obama, the deep state, and most other people far right wingers hate. As many as 50,000 trials will occur in 2019. Once convicted of treason, these people will beg to be imprisoned in Guantanamo. In this scenario, Trump and the military are the good guys and almost everyone else is bad, like a military dictatorship.
We should know which one of these scenarios is correct in a few weeks or months. Would it be useful to come back then and hold the losing conspiracy theorists accountable? Of course not. In our multiverse culture, all three theories will be victorious according to their supporters.
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KS wrote:The CIA and Washington (especially the Democrats) are partnered with the Mexican drug cartels. This is why the Dems insist on NO border stoppages at all...because so many freakin' illegals are muling drugs into the US.
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Harry Marks wrote: The prediction of some imminent ouster of Dear Leader and his Vice-Leader is horse puckey. Unless Mueller has revelations more dramatic than those which have leaked out so far, there will not even be impeachment.
Today I read that the republicans are calling for an investigation of Cohen's testimony. They are looking into proving perjury. They MUST be bluffing. They cannot possibly be serious!! First off, I get the distinct impression that Cohen is telling the complete truth because why would he lie at this point? What's lying going to do for him now? Nothing except he makes sure the guy he lied for gets his too.

So I doubt very seriously that they will be able to prove perjury. The problem with that is that they will have basically verified Cohen's assertions and accusations in the public's eye. They will have vindicated Cohen and if they vindicate him, they MUST then impeach because what Cohen has given them is impeachable. If Trump instructed people to lie about his financial dealings during the campaign (and you KNOW he did), he can be impeached. They would be very wise to drop their investigation of Cohen.

They might be thinking that Mueller probably has evidence to back everything Cohen alleges (and he likely does) and so impeachment is just around the corner anyway but why make it easier for them? Once you fail to prove perjury, you will have backed yourself into a corner.
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As somebody living in England - where we have our own outstanding political and governmental stupidities - the difficulty most people here have is in understanding why trump still has the support he does, when it is blatantly obvious that he is a liar, crook and racist. All of these things have been recorded, documented and corroborated, time and again.
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vizitelly wrote:As somebody living in England - where we have our own outstanding political and governmental stupidities - the difficulty most people here have is in understanding why trump still has the support he does, when it is blatantly obvious that he is a liar, crook and racist. All of these things have been recorded, documented and corroborated, time and again.
The strongman persona has captured parts of the public in several countries, including the U.S. It doesn't matter whether your strongman is a liar, crook, and racist or just an all-around dick. In fact it's reinforcing for the strongman's popularity. In the UK you almost had Boris Johnson, right? He might have shown the same imperviousness to tarnish in the eyes of his fervid supporters.
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