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A fascinating interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik. Among other things he discusses the coup against Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpsoGxwn5o

Pieczenik worked for decades as a CIA psychiatrist. I don't trust spooks or shrinks, but to hear him tell it, he spent his career saving Christians where he could. Western society is superior to others because of the Judeo-Christian belief system, he says, and we need to do what we can to preserve it. I agree. The introductory stuff ends at about 7:45 and the commercials have been trimmed. I posted a youtube link, which will no doubt be taken down, so I'll add a link straight to Alex Jones' Banned.video website.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5e014e7a1e2e2900167644b5

Tom Clancy's character Jack Ryan was based on Pieczenik.
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The impeachment trial in the Senate isn't getting very good TV ratings. People know it's a sham. And the Democrats admit that one of the main purposes of the trial is to stop Trump from winning re-election. So, Trump's opposition is using impeachment as an electioneering tool. If that's not traitorous, I don't know what is.

I have to wonder what Jesus would do in this situation. How he would view the behavior of Trump's leftist opposition? Jesus was about as right as they come, and he said we're supposed to turn the other cheek. But that's only to the ignorant--people who don't know any better. The commies in congress know better. They're not attacking Trump out of ignorance. And at some point you just can't turn away from their behavior. They're enabling America's enemies.
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Oh, yes, I'm sure "What would Jesus do" is something Trump asks himself every day! :lol:
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I found Adam Schiff's presentation very persuasive. But I agree with my wife that the Dems took too long, partly by repetition.

We won't know til next week whether enough Senators agree that right matters to at least get witnesses called. In a way it seemed to me that he put the defense in a box. The more they argued that the prosecution case had not nailed down the president's guilt, the more the detail about dragging out the "pause" (as the defense likes to put it) and hiding the hold from everyone they could, comes back to imply that we need to hear from Mick "Get Over It" Mulvaney and John "Drug Deal" Bolton. Romney seems convinced, and has the chops to stand up to the Fox News hounds, but will he get 3 more Senators in the same position?

Of course all the defense are really doing is giving a fig leaf to wavering Senators who will now have some talking points to answer independent voters who question them. And maybe to some extent providing cover for Trumpsters who want to support him but have trouble swallowing his unconstitutional behavior, which matters because shoring up the base puts pressure on GOP Senators experiencing the urge to think independently.

Me, I don't care about the horse race. It will be what it will be. Dear Leader will probably interpret acquittal as giving him the slack to try more shenanigans, but there are more bombshells waiting for him as the truth comes out about his finances, and the more stupid Rudy tricks he tries, the more the voters will be sick of him.
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The 2 articles of impeachment are without merit. They accuse Trump of doing his job. He would have been derelict in his duty if he hadn't questioned the giveaway of US taxpayer dollars to the Ukrainians. They needed to check on corruption at their end. And he would have been derelict again if he had cooperated with the witch-hunt being carried out by a partisan congress. Trump is charged with doing his job.

That sounds ludicrous, but one of the "witnesses" the other day said that Trump went against the advice of the foreign service when he dealt with the Ukrainians. So, we have unelected bureaucrats saying that Trump should be impeached because he didn't carry out the diktats of the Deep State politburo. The spooks are trying to crucify him because he doesn't do their bidding. Again, Trump is charged with doing his job.

A reporter named Peter Schweizer has a new book out, Profiles in Corruption. In it he talks about some of the money scandals tied to the Ukraine. Obama, H. Clinton and Biden used the country to launder money. Foreign aid money went to the Ukraine, then into the coffers of the Democratic National Committee. And along the way some Dem family members skimmed off a few million. Two weeks after Obama appointed Biden to be point man on the Ukraine, Biden's inexperienced son was given a million-dollar-a-year job with Burisma. Schweizer's book describes that sweetheart deal and others that the Dems received while pillaging the Ukraine.

harpercollins.com/9780062897909/profile ... orruption/

Schweizer's previous books have described the same type of corruption among the Republicans. I expect the Senate wants to wind up the impeachment pretty quickly, before the folks watching at home start talking about following the money.

The Senate is so corrupt. They know about child sex trafficking, for example. Antichrist John McCain's widow said this the other day, when talking about pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, "We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was - no legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."

I mean, WTF? Even the wife of America's most powerful senator knew that Epstein was peddling child sex slaves, but no one could DO anything about it? THAT'S what will bring the impeachment trial to a close posthaste. Nothing will cause the mob to break out the pitchforks faster than pedophilia.

Washington DC is freaking out about Cindy McCain's statement, by the way. The networks HAVE to report it, but they don't want to. Alex Jones was reporting on the Epstein/Clinton pedophilia business a decade ago, while the networks looked the other way.
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KindaSkolarly wrote:The 2 articles of impeachment are without merit. They accuse Trump of doing his job.
I know the defense is arguing that the hold was due to such a question, but the other holds (they argue the Ukraine hold was routine because of the number of other holds) were announced properly and covered in the news. This one the president kept secret, neither notifying Congress as he is required to do nor explaining it within the administration before he got caught. This one he referred the Ukrainians to Giuliani about. This one was not on behalf of the American people.
KindaSkolarly wrote: He would have been derelict in his duty if he hadn't questioned the giveaway of US taxpayer dollars to the Ukrainians. They needed to check on corruption at their end.
First of all, there is a regular process that Trump could have intervened in on a regular basis, and it had just finished another cycle of approval when he responded to the new Ukrainian administration with a separate, secret hold. When those Administration officials connected to the Ukraine and NATO sought information as to why the money was not rolling out as appropriated, they were not given an explanation, much less any information as to what might spring the money loose. What did Dear Leader say about it? "Talk to Rudy" and "Do the right thing." And don't worry about the horse's head in your bed, these things just happen sometimes.

Just a few weeks ago Rudy was on TV arguing that affidavits from the corrupt former prosecutor constitute evidence against Hunter Biden that needs to be followed up. He clearly demonstrates that Trump's "concern" about the corruption in Ukraine was simply how to make political use of it.
KindaSkolarly wrote: And he would have been derelict again if he had cooperated with the witch-hunt being carried out by a partisan congress. Trump is charged with doing his job.
Trump didn't even follow the law on what to do about the whistleblower. He makes it painfully obvious that he doesn't care about the law, he only cares about his own political fortunes. We are very lucky to have the House in opposition hands, so that there was some recourse in the government against the man who would be king, who claims to be able to do anything he wants under the Constitution, and who hires toadies to wave all his drug deals through and tell the public to get over it.
KindaSkolarly wrote:That sounds ludicrous, but one of the "witnesses" the other day said that Trump went against the advice of the foreign service when he dealt with the Ukrainians. So, we have unelected bureaucrats saying that Trump should be impeached because he didn't carry out the diktats of the Deep State politburo. The spooks are trying to crucify him because he doesn't do their bidding. Again, Trump is charged with doing his job.
That's a pretty bizarre reading of the situation. Trump was withholding the aid without giving reasons. The Administration (his own hired guns) met and argued that the aid was important and he shouldn't be holding it up. And you claim it was a plot to get him impeached. More like a plot to frustrate Putin, if a coordinated effort at all.

Unelected bureaucrats saying he should be impeached? No, not a single one of them said that, unless you count Mattis prophesying it if Dear Leader did not hire people with a spine, or Ambassador Yovanovich reportedly advising the Ukrainians that they could outlast this crook. The Democrats in Congress, who together represent a larger proportion of the American people than Dear Leader can ever hope to, have impeached him based on the evidence they had in hand. If that evidence is not enough, let's have more, because all the indications so far are that it will just make Dear Leader look more lawless.
KindaSkolarly wrote:A reporter named Peter Schweizer has a new book out, Profiles in Corruption. In it he talks about some of the money scandals tied to the Ukraine. Obama, H. Clinton and Biden used the country to launder money. Foreign aid money went to the Ukraine, then into the coffers of the Democratic National Committee. And along the way some Dem family members skimmed off a few million. Two weeks after Obama appointed Biden to be point man on the Ukraine, Biden's inexperienced son was given a million-dollar-a-year job with Burisma. Schweizer's book describes that sweetheart deal and others that the Dems received while pillaging the Ukraine.
I would be happy to see a proper investigation of the Hunter Biden performance, but if taking a well-paying job was corruption or an offense, then half the Senate would be barred (mostly the Red half). As for Schweitzer, I would Google him and see what I found, but I have long since despaired of getting credible sources from you. An Alex Jones fan. I don't think I will be checking this one out.
KindaSkolarly wrote:The Senate is so corrupt. They know about child sex trafficking, for example. Antichrist John McCain's widow said this the other day, when talking about pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, "We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing, but we had no one that was - no legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him."
Well, that's interesting, but if you are interested in credibility, you need to acknowledge Trump's connection as strongly as Clinton's. When all the dirt is out about the deal Epstein cut with Florida, you can bet that Trump is much more likely than Clinton to have had some influence on that. Going just on the rumors, he had way more to hide (though of course that could just mean he had deeper pockets to go after).
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KS wrote:Antichrist John McCain...
Oh wow that is excellent news. Now that The AntiChrist is dead, the entire Book of Revelations has been thwarted! Who is going to tell Trump's Evangelical supporters?
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I hope John Bolton testifies at Trump's impeachment trial. Bolton lied about Weapons of Mass Destruction to help get us into the Iraq war. He helped run the death squads in Central America back during the Iran-Contra years. He's a Bushman from way back, and Trump made a bad mistake when he employed him. But I hope he testifies, because then (tit for tat) we'll get to hear Hunter Biden perjure himself into prison. O what joy that would be. The other day he finally paid some child support to his ex-girlfriend, the one he was boinking while he was also boinking his brother's widow. O man I hope they get him on the stand. His dad looks really tired nowadays. He IS tired. He's telling voters in Iowa to vote for somebody else in the upcoming caucus. ANYBODY else. He just wants out. I suspect he only took the gig so he could be a "candidate" and "rival of Donald Trump" when the Trump team came forward with the graft uncovered in the Ukraine. No telling what the Dems would have done if they hadn't had the convenient out of claiming that Trump was looking into the Ukraine for political reasons. But the impeachment's winding down, and Biden's winding down, and we'll see what tomorrow brings.

The Democrats have done enormous damage to themselves with their treatment of Trump. Makes me think of Brexit. That vote was a few months before the 2016 presidential election. In a show of national pride, Britain voted to leave the European Union. And then, in a show of national pride, America elected Trump. Then we had three years of quibbling over Brexit, until the Brits cast another vote that was the worst defeat for the communists in EIGHTY-FIVE YEARS. If the Brexit votes are harbingers of Trump elections, then Trump's headed for a landslide.
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It's Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
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What a wonderful day. The impeachment fails and Brexit succeeds. It's as if a tsunami wave of BS has reached its farthest point inland and is now reversing direction.

Nigle Farage at the EU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMvZRf9Scs

Hitler tried to unify Europe under unelected rule, and the Brits thwarted the plan by fighting back. Now they've done it again. Bravo.

And in America, the partisan attack on Trump has failed. Cross some T's and dot some I's, and the Democrats can skulk away to mutter into their beer.

Some time back the leader of the House, Nancy Pelosi, said she would never allow impeachment because it would "rip the country apart." Then suddenly she was in favor of ripping the country apart. Some say that she changed her mind when this case popped up:

San Francisco Director Of Public Works And Restauranteur Charged With Public Corruption
justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/san-francisco- ... corruption

The Northern District of California (Pelosi's bailiwick) has been corrupt for a long time because liberal-appointed judges facilitate the corruption. But now some Trump-appointed judges are finally having a say. And in this case there are a couple of people in REAL trouble (so much trouble that they might be willing to testify in exchange for immunity). Chances are they did business with Nancy Pelosi or her husband, or their son, and Pelosi is DESPERATE to get quash the case. To do that she would need to get rid of Trump and his judges. The Pelosis are a seriously corrupt family, and this tip-of-the-iceberg case may have provoked her into "ripping the country apart" in order to save her own stinking skin.

But we'll see, tomorrow. Today's for celebrating.

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