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Shootings are surging this week in New York City, with 28 incidents and 38 victims reported since Monday — the day the NYPD disbanded its plainclothes anti-crime unit, The Post learned on Friday.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/19/nyc-shoot ... disbanded/

Deplorable democratic leadership.

De Blasio and Cuomo are responsible for this and the blood is on their hands.

Impotent leaders only cause more harm than good. Ironically, the most vulnerable that will pay the price will be people of color who are more likely to be victims to gang violence and other criminal malfeasance. The very people the democrats claim to be the party of.the

The Democrats in power do not care if minorities eat each other alive.. as long as they get their votes to increase their political power.

Shame on democrats for their vile and evil exploitation of minorities.
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Then we should all support the NRA and second amendment with more gusto! Get more guns on the streets so people can shoot back.
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Interbane wrote:Then we should all support the NRA and second amendment with more gusto! Get more guns on the streets so people can shoot back.

I don't know exactly where you live, but I get the impression it's a small sleepy town.

If you were in the heart of a big city like Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, or Portland and experienced the mayhem when the police were being asked to stand down while thugs and anarchist beat, robbed, or burned your business or real estate down to the ground, you might think about this differently.


Also, I would have liked to have seen a rational mind like yours negotiate with thugs not to beat your wife (it happened ) in front of you, or ransack your business after having beat you with baseball bats ( it happened).

Thanks for popping in, Interbane.
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I moved to a sleepy little town about 4 years ago from the Santa Barbara area. Before that, I lived in Pensacola Florida.

My comment was only half sarcasm - I would need to live in a city where I could keep my CCP.

The plain clothes unit was only 600 officers out of a 36,000 member force. That unit was one of the biggest sources of civilian complaints and fatal shootings, and is a remnant of an outdated model. The 600 members of that unit were given other jobs that have the same goal - less crime.

If I were you, I'd dig deeper before implying cause and effect between the disbanding of this unit, and increased shootings. It may be an emotionally rewarding conclusion, but when you look close it falls apart.

Did you read both sides of the story, or just the conservative side that confirms your views?
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I read both sides and have lived through two riots.

When the police aren't responding to calls because they are tied up handling " the language of the poor" i am happy i have had protection against people that try (and have tried) to take advantage of the situation.

It's interesting commentary coming from sleepy towns from people in armchairs though.

Come to the city and experience a dose of reality. Work with inner city gangs as a volunteer ( like i have) and be hunted by one ( like i was many years ago) and your sleepy town philosophy might change a bit.

You are mostly talk from afar with little experience being active.

Sleepy towns are for day- dreamers.
At this point in my life I actually envy your slumbering.
I will be honest about that.
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It's interesting commentary coming from sleepy towns from people in armchairs though.
Really? You completely avoid my points and attack my background instead? The sad part is, you can even name that fallacy.
I read both sides and have lived through two riots.
Nonsense. If you read what I've read, then you realize your comments are way off base. The shuffling of officers is a shell game. Convince me otherwise.
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No, I just think the commentary and interpretation of the data points do nothing to justify the actual violence.


You can reason this one out and then fall asleep in your armchair with a warm cup of coco after expending the energy.
But until you've dropped your privilege and have actually LIVED the experience your contribution is nothing more than recycled talking points.
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No, I just think the commentary and interpretation of the data points do nothing to justify the actual violence.
You're spot on. It doesn't justify violence. My commentary shows that your vilification of Democrats on this point is invalid, nothing more.
But until you've dropped your privilege and have actually LIVED the experience your contribution is nothing more than recycled talking points.
Lived the experience of dealing with plain-clothed officer units? I have experienced that. Living in a city? I have experienced that. Living in a riot? No, I haven't, but I've been a part of some protests that weren't quite peaceful. I have experienced enough to question your narrow stream media drivel. That's where the vilification and polarization start. You're better than that.

But that's a tangent. I mean, is there blood on Cuomo's hands for the reasons you mention? Was the disbanding of the unit truly "evil"? Can you actually support your point directly? Saying I'm living in a sleepy town isn't support for your claims. It's an ad hominem you use to avoid actually supporting your point.
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Quote ant: “sleepy towns are for daydreamers “
You’re full of shit.
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Taylor wrote:Quote ant: “sleepy towns are for daydreamers “
You’re full of shit.

Listen to you..

you are likely just as much of a lowbrow as your friends that are looting and randomly shooting people in cities like LA and Chicago.

cast your aspersions at me as you see fit.
it exposes your paleolithic IQ
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