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by Joe Kelley
Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:14 pm
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

+++++++++++ It is not true that I see anything negative about interconnectivity, but I do see a negative in a world in which people move farther away from warm or actual relations with each other. ++++++++++++++ Dwill, How much of that is due to factors that are due to a lack of connectivity, specif...
by Joe Kelley
Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:22 pm
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

We hear warnings all the time that we use remote connectivity to wall ourselves off from our immediate environment, so that we are actually less connected to people with whom we share space. DWill, I have a method of simulating conversation on forums and it involves reading and stopping to comment ...
by Joe Kelley
Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:57 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

Remote interconnectivity may, ironically, only worsen our separation from each other as members of true communities. DWill, The analogy here may be a double edged sword, not a sword without a handle? If the baby or the productive edge of the sword is the opposite of remoteness, call it intimacy, I’...
by Joe Kelley
Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:13 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

If this dichotomy is accurate, it wouldn't be a knock against any of these writers, just the indication that each is taking a particular, and partial, viewpoint. DWill, I don’t see the view you see. Howard’s work appears to be ambiguous or perhaps the right word is abstract on specifics concerning ...
by Joe Kelley
Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:51 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

Robert, Can you link to these places where you have offered your version of capitalism? I looked for a way to contact you privately but failed to find one. Here is a similar link: http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/04/01/algae.oil/index.html If the path forward goes in both centralized and decentr...
by Joe Kelley
Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:48 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

These stories are the myths of capitalism. Hence his idolising of JP Morgan and JD Rockefeller, seeking to say that America has buried assets in its culture. Robert, Capitalism is, or isn’t, what I say it is, or your version, or Howard’s, or JD Rockefeller’s, but there are ways of measuring physica...
by Joe Kelley
Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:26 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

We can react to this failed strategy by putting better systems of checks and balances into place. In this sense, I wouldn't say these actions are apologized for, but merely explained in the context of the system. Interbane, To say that specific actions are not apologized for, and they are merely ex...
by Joe Kelley
Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:03 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

During the 'consolidation' or 'repurposing' phases of the cycle, such acts will be purged as new systems are put into place. Thanks for that (and the effort to get there), A very good illustration of what that quote above may actually mean, in real physical terms, is something called The Federal Re...
by Joe Kelley
Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:47 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

Thanks very much for this thread, it has been interesting. I agree with your comment on Bloom's intentions. How do you see my comment above as differing from it? Is it about what counts as conventional thinking? Robert, The use of the words “myth” and “capitalism’ in the following sentences may off...
by Joe Kelley
Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:18 am
Forum: The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism - by Howard Bloom
Topic: Progress
Replies: 59
Views: 40483

Re: Progress

Bloom is inventing new memes to establish a constructive myth for capitalism. His concepts such as secular genesis and messianic capitalism are intended to confront conventional thinking through a positive and practical cosmology. Robert Tulip, I had hoped that the work intended to help move people...

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