Robert, the zodiac as man is the simplest theory. The zodiac accords with Bible culture and is the principle of organization of Ecclesiastes. It's an object that anyone can see and its human association is traditional. It's the humane structure through which the sun moves. It is the human pattern in the sky -- a logos in the heavens.



There isn't any encoding -- if one considers the culture of the time. Cultural change conceals sources. Despite creationists, First Genesis is clearly based on astrological thinking:

Sun day: light created;
Moon day: waters separated;
and so on for the rest.

Thanks for the explanation of why Christmas occurs after the solstice.

Tom

Anyone following this thread ever watch zeitgeist? The first third of the movie is about religion, and how the beginnings of religion have strong astrological and egyptian ties. Or something. I would definitely be interested in Robert's and Frank's interpretation of it.

I see no evidence of such a spirit, so no, I do not believe one exists, but just as I cannot prove that there is no god, I make no positive claims in the matter. The same applies here, I make no claims about a possible spirit except that in my opinion it seems unlikely.



Nope… never saw it.

Later

Hi Interbane, thanks, I just watched Zeitgeist and you are right, it provides an excellent explanation of the origins of Christianity in Egyptian religion and of how precession of the equinox provides a physical cosmic framework for the world. I liked the reference to Luke 22:10 as a prediction of the Age of Aquarius: Wikipedia provides a good summary of Zeitgeist, noting that