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Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
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Re: Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
I was wondering if there was anyone out there making an intelligent case for deism. If Lennox had dropped all the Jesus and Bible nonsense, he could have been a formidable opponent. Although I suppose there's not too much to argue over, basically one side would say there must be something behind the existence of the universe, while the atheist will say that's not necessary. Perhaps for most people once you go down the deism route they are compelled to join an organized religion and be part of a community.
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Re: Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
What deism is for is finding the largest gap of human knowledge - the beginning of the universe and why/how it came to be - and filling that gap with a deity. The argument does not get any more complex than that. The problem is that it introduces more questions than it answers. For starters, we would then have to consider the existence of an entity even more complex than the universe itself. As far as viewing deism through the lens of complexity/simplicity, a universe in which there is a deity is far more complex than in one without. Seeing as how we've filled nearly every gap in our knowledge to date(even most that were formerly filled by a god), I see no reason to make the same mistake again and attempt to fill this gap with god. We should be honest, and say "I don't know" rather than contrive answers.
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Re: Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
Sell us on this concept. How is Dawkins ignorant? Use more than a single sentence please.Greg wrote:The ignorance that man possesses is astounding.
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Re: Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
I shouldn't respond to your obvious trolling, but what the hell difference does it make how theologians define substance? Does that lead to some kind of coherent argument for their position?Greg Wilson wrote:For one thing, ask him what substance is to a theologian and he will not be able to tell you, he doesn't even know that substance is soul to a theologian. It is so simple as to be not funny.
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Re: Dawkins vs. Lennox debate
Chris:
Is there some kind of conspiracy of this trolling on the internet? I was reading a message board on a movie (The Adjustment Bureau) and a member there was accused of religious trolling and when I looked back at his previous messages, indeed it did appear so.He has been banned. Sorry for the nonsense everyone.