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Poetry in Person: Muriel Rukeyer

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This thread is to discuss chapter 3: Muriel Rukeyer Feb. 22, 1978.
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Rukeyser and London talk about Rukeyser's opinion that "anything that doesn't belong in a poem must be gotten rid of." If poems are about meaning this makes good sense. Poems are not long enough to have unnecessary material, just like short stories. If poems are about sound then there is no such thing as something that doesn't belong only things that don't sound right (consistent?)
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GaryG48 wrote:Rukeyser and London talk about Rukeyser's opinion that "anything that doesn't belong in a poem must be gotten rid of." If poems are about meaning this makes good sense. Poems are not long enough to have unnecessary material, just like short stories. If poems are about sound then there is no such thing as something that doesn't belong only things that don't sound right (consistent?)
Yeah, I think so too and this is what makes them hard to write.
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One thing that bothered me was that she claims poetry is not about anything but that it is informed by certain things...and then goes on to dicuss "plot".
I enjoy her poetry and do appreciate the "sound" of of her poems. But in this interview, I had the feeling that she enjoyed the sound of listening to herself talk, especially when she claims she generally dodges questions, interviews, etc--but hey! Come on! Let's talk. Let's criticize. Let's answer questions.
She comes across to me as being very pretentious. I had the feeling this is one of the cases where it is better to know the poetry but not the poet.
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oblivion wrote: She comes across to me as being very pretentious. I had the feeling this is one of the cases where it is better to know the poetry but not the poet.
You made me chuckle :lol:

I don't know how far you are in the book but there is a lot more pretension ahead. Wait till you meet the guy from Bakersfield who had to leave his mother because her life was stiffing his.

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I need to get reading, I'm falling behind!
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