Chris OConnor in Defence wrote:You're calling this a point? How does this qualify as a point? A point typically serves a purpose such as supporting some sort of argument. Your point doesn't do that does it? Kind of pointless, huh?Starhwe wrote:I was trying to make the point that even with all of our understanding and technology, we can't make even the simplist of organs.
Chris OConnor in Defence wrote:Read a book on evolution. It's in there.Stahrwe wrote:That being the case, how could random combinations produce complex mechnisms even with eons of time?
Definately agreed. 5 Stars Chris!Chris OConnor in Defence wrote:No. It sure doesn't. Not even close.Stahrwe wrote:I saw an interview with Mr. Dawkins once where he was trying to explain how live started on earth. At one point he speculated that aliens had seeded it here. Doesn't that just substitute a god for God?
First of all Dawkins wasn't trying to explain how life started on our planet because Dawkins doesn't know how life started. Dawkins was presenting one theory out of many theories. It's called transpermia. And the theory doesn't state that aliens seeded life here. It states that life could have hitched a ride on a piece of rock that was blasted into space by massive impacts on other planets.
Is this a rational theory? Extremely rational. Just last month we found amino acids, the building blocks of life, on a meteorite that smashed into our planet. Science is a beautiful thing. Gives me goosebumps sometimes. Other times it gives me headaches as I try to grasp various concepts. But imagine how cool it would be if life developed throughout the cosmos and billions of years ago it arrived here as a stowaway on a comet or meteor. No God or gods involved. No magic or hocus pocus. Just good science. Pretty cool, eh?
Yes, there are people that "speculate" that life could have been brought to our planet by alien beings explicitly to seed our planet with the foundations of life. Then, over billions of years, they sat back and remotely watched this seed evolve from simple organisms to complex organisms that actually are only recently starting to say to themselves, "Hey, I wonder if an alien brought life to Earth." Also a cool theory (or hypothesis) that doesn't require magic or leaps of faith.
Science and Heaven have conflicted with each other ever since we created religion. Religion, in itself, tends to fight with itself. When you take religion and science, and try to make sense of them being both what we call "real", does it work? NO. Religion does not have the grasp on life as we know it that science does.
Science is the relative theory on how the world works and acts. A lot of these things have been proven. Science continues to evolve into things like solids, liquids and gasses; mother earth, the sun and all the planets around us; everything that we know has some science in it.
Religion is another story.
Religion is like fairytales and fables. You don't know if it's true, but it seems to place a purpose and you are tempted to believe in certain kinds of it. So, that said, can we really be positive that religious events and people really, truly exist? Is there any solid evidence, like such in science, that can prove that supernatural and unrealistic things have occured in this universe?
No.
Ill leave you to do the math.