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Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray

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Vanity Fair by William Makepeace Thackeray

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Vanity Fair (1848) by William Makepeace Thackeray.


Will you join Penelope and me in the discussion of Thackeray's satire of English society in the days of the Napoleonic wars? :smile:

The text of the novel and an audio version are available at project Gutenberg:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/599

There are also some great illustrations of the novel made by Thackeray which can be seen at The Victorian Web:



http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustr ... lery1.html
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Tu es tres charmante Ophelia!!!

Merci Beaucoup.

I am reading it.....I am reading it....wait, wait, wait......slow reader...me.

PS. You should say,'Penelope and I', my darling, not 'and me'. Don't you even begin to correct my 'pigin' French!!! :smile:

This is a great book we are beginning and I am so excited.
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Bonsoir Penelope, bienvenue dans le monde de Vanity Fair!

You should say,'Penelope and I', my darling, not 'and me'

Ah, a little grammar... Let's see how we can argue this.

"I" is a subject pronoun and "me" is an object pronoun.
So, I would say "Penelope and I are reading Vanity Fair but :
Join Penelope and me, as in "join us."
I am reading it.....I am reading it....wait, wait, wait......slow reader...me.
Do you want to finish the book before we start discussing?
If you do I'll wait of course, but I thought we could discuss it chapter by chapter, as you read.

To give you an idea of what I mean, here are two questions to start with about chapter 1:

1- The tone: how does the novelist present his characters?

2- If you were asked to single out a single act in the first chapter that you found memorable, what would it be?

There are a few questions I'm going to ask myself at the same time (!), things you don't have the time to look into at a first reading:
-viewpoint (does it shift, and how?)
- The novel was first published in serialized form: what about chapter titles, and how do the chapters end?

It so happens that another novel I'm reading at the moment uses eighteenth and nineteenth century patterns in the English novel as a model: A Suitable Boy, by Vikram Seth.
I'll be comparing them as I read-- I can already see similitudes and marked differences between the two.
Have you read A Suitable Boy ? At one point in the 1990's it seemed that half the people I knew were reading it, but somehow I only bought it a few weeks ago.
India is one of my favourite topics by the way, and next is... China.
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Thank you Ophelia.....I would prefer to discuss the book chapter-by-chapter and for you to point out what aspects, other than story and character, I might be considering. That will help enormously and add to the enjoyment.....and.....make me GET ON WITH IT>

I keep looking at my copy of 'A Suitable Boy' - Vikram (something beginning with S).......can't remember. I haven't read it either although I have had it for ages and I also love books about India. We'll do that next if you're not fed up with me by then..... :D
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Indian novels, part 3.

One of the nice things about this is that there are parallels with
Vanity Fair. /Many reviewers have stressed the influence of XIXth
century English novelists on this novel, and it is a society satire,
albeit a much gentler one than VF.
This suits me much better than Saldam Rushdie's "magic realism" : have
you read Midnight's Children? I tried, and got nowhere.
Suitable Boy is nothing like that, it's pleasant to read, there's
never any feeling of "I don't get this", and there is a lot of humour.

So I'll be reading Suitable Boy in parallel with VF, which should be fun.

Also, it's great that we feel like reading VF in the same way... Do you
think my two questions will suit you for the beginning?
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OK - Let's read both of the Novels....I've got VF on the go....I will need to find my copy of 'A Suitable Boy' - this house is full of books Ophelia....but I promise I will try to find it and read it along with VF.

I am reading with your questions in mind....will you give me until Monday to come up with some comments?

Love Pen
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