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I am embarrassed to be a part of the altar building ape species.
The term “Birds Aren’t Real” refers to biological “Birds” no longer existing on United States soil. After the government forcibly made the entire species extinct in the 20th century, all of these real birds were replaced with surveillance drones designed to look just like Birds. To simplify- Birds no longer exist in the U.S. as a biological lifeform, thus, Birds Aren’t Real!

https://birdsarentreal.com/
Holy crap these lunatics are protesting the Twitter bird. :lol: :x I hope this is just some sort of a drinking club.

==> This is a thread for all non-QAnon conspiracies. We already have a thread for QAnon.
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LanDroid wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:57 pm I am embarrassed to be a part of the altar building ape species.
The term “Birds Aren’t Real” refers to biological “Birds” no longer existing on United States soil. After the government forcibly made the entire species extinct in the 20th century, all of these real birds were replaced with surveillance drones designed to look just like Birds. To simplify- Birds no longer exist in the U.S. as a biological lifeform, thus, Birds Aren’t Real!
I have heard that the "Birds Aren't Real" movement was started as a joke and most of its "believers" know it's a joke. Not sure of the purpose of it except to show, satirically, how conspiracy theories can take off, whether they're true or not.

I suspect many who suggest the "election was stolen" know that what they say is not really true. But if you're part of a movement, you disseminate its creed. It's what identity politics is all about.
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OK that viral test scenario makes sense - as I said about the birdies in the OP, " I hope this is just some sort of a drinking club."

I wish the "Election was stolen" and "Covid is a hoax" obsessions were also drinking clubs. A good deal of that attraction seems to be "If it makes liberals angry or The Donald happy, I'll believe and promote absolutely anything."
 
What other new conspiracies have you run across - we're spinning off new ones all the time.
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geo wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:30 am I suspect many who suggest the "election was stolen" know that what they say is not really true. But if you're part of a movement, you disseminate its creed. It's what identity politics is all about.
The nature of conspiracy thinking seems to me to primarily function to cover up other beliefs that people find embarrassing, unsayable or confusing.

The belief among Trump supporters that the US Federal Election last year was stolen by the Democrats is a perfect case in point. Their real belief was that democracy enables inferior people to take power so the USA needs a dictatorship. Because such overt prejudice and authoritarian sentiment is considered morally illegitimate, the emotional opposition to a progressive change of government has to be presented in a covert way.

People find it okay to say the election was stolen, despite its flagrant falsity, because it allows them to organise toward an authoritarian political system while cloaking that desire with the veneer of support for democracy. Their alleged moral stance is that it is only them who are supporting "true democracy". This message serves to confuse the social debate and conceal their true authoritarian views.

Such authoritarian cloaking is somewhat like how Roman Emperors insisted they were true Republicans while completely removing the substance of distributed power that was the essence of Republican Rome.

Similar conspiracies operate with climate change. The conspiracy theory that climate change is a hoax enables people to continue to support the fossil fuel economy with a clear conscience. Rather than the cognitive dissonance that comes from saying "I want something bad", denialists use the psychology of conspiracy to insist that what everyone else thinks is bad is in fact good.

Unfortunately there is an equal and opposite conspiratorial mindset on the progressive side, with the idea that anything that might delay the shift away from fossil fuels simply reflects conspiracies run by energy companies. That leaves no space for dialogue with the view that cooling technology could be a better immediate climate priority than decarbonization of the economy.
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Robert Tulip wrote: People find it okay to say the election was stolen, despite its flagrant falsity, because it allows them to organise toward an authoritarian political system while cloaking that desire with the veneer of support for democracy. Their alleged moral stance is that it is only them who are supporting "true democracy". This message serves to confuse the social debate and conceal their true authoritarian views.
Unfortunately, this could be a very accurate assessment of the "stolen election" narrative. If only it were just a drinking club.

The big lie that many Americans accept without skepticism is that Democrats and liberals are destroying our country. This narrative is put forth on FoxNews almost 24 hours a day. And so Republicans and their supporters justify taking authoritarian measures.

In the news today we see that Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, contributed to efforts to overturn the last election. And, yet, we are at the point in America that he will probably never be convicted or punished. It's possible that his lack of cooperation will even be seen by Republicans as a badge of honor. That's where we are in America.
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geo wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:32 am
Robert Tulip wrote: In the news today we see that Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows, contributed to efforts to overturn the last election. And, yet, we are at the point in America that he will probably never be convicted or punished. It's possible that his lack of cooperation will even be seen by Republicans as a badge of honor. That's where we are in America.
Here is what really bothers me about this situation with Meadows. Republicans will gloss right over these condemning facts about how Meadows pushed hard for a coup. Fox News doesn't adequately cover this stuff because of tribalism and a conservative agenda, and most Fox News viewers will never flip over to CNN to get the oppositions viewpoint. So they live in an echo chamber surrounded by like-minded misled and brainwashed people.

The same goes for CNN viewers. Fox covers a ton of stories that CNN viewers should really view. But again... tribalism. It's in our DNA to tune out what the other tribe says, feels and desires. I hate this about our species and really about every higher species. We're primal animals despite our fancy cargo and lifestyles.

Trump deserves to be in jail. Republicans will argue so does Hillary Clinton and Hunter Biden. They may be right. I haven't learned enough about their purported infractions. But can any crime be worse than trying to destroy our democracy by fabricating voter/election fraud and trying to fuel a damn coup? The guy is pure evil.
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