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Crime and Punishment - Resources & Links

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Crime and Punishment - Resources & Links

Crime and Punishment

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SparkNotes summary of Crime and Punishment

CliffsNotes summary of Crime and Punishment

Read Crime and Punishment for free online at Project Gutenberg

Read Encyclopedia Britannica's summary of Crime and Punishment

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https://welovetranslations.com/2020/04/ ... unishment/

Good summary of translation issues - I plan to read the Garnett translation linked above from Project Gutenberg.
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I didn't even consider that there might be different translations to consider. Seems like we're about to read the bible. :lol:
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Chris OConnor wrote:I didn't even consider that there might be different translations to consider. Seems like we're about to read the bible. :lol:
The Garnett translation is old but generally well regarded. She translated six dozen Russian texts into English more than a century ago, working quite quickly, so there may be some minor errors.

Speaking of translation errors in the Bible, I am currently reading Jesus from Outer Space by Richard Carrier. He points out systematic mistakes in translations of Paul's Epistles to add in language suggesting that Jesus lived on earth, when Paul never said any such thing. Such an ideological agenda based on dogmatic assumptions is one example of a common translation error.

Then there is just poetic literary style, and Garnett is well regarded for this, despite using some old fashioned words, such as "damsel".
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So now my job is to find a Kindle or Audible book with the Garnett translation.
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I just got a copy from the library translated by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky. Maybe we can ignore the book and just argue about the translations. :lol:
When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you; even though you multiply your prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood.
Isaiah 1:15

But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Exodus 21: 23 - 25
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Interesting to see how they differ.
When you refuse to learn, you become a disease.
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My dad passed away two years ago, and I inherited nine boxes of his books, which included Crime and Punishment. I have not yet organised to get the books out of the boxes, so I looked through and found it, a lovely old hard cover of the Garnett translation. I also have downloaded it from Gutenberg.
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My edition is the Oliver Ready translation.
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I've read this book in a few variations, I haven't had a problem with the translations, I mean, you know what they mean, right? The whole picture always comes out. The translation isn't the topic, I hope, it's the book itself.
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I am posting this in Part II discussion as well. A really intriguing book has come out telling the story behind Crime and Punishment. Apparently it was a real murderer who started the mental wheels in motion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/book ... ngham.html

Sorry if there is paywall.
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