KindaSkolarly wrote:You shouldn't call names, Tulip. You're pushing the most destructive lie ever foisted on mankind.
If you call the physics of the greenhouse effect a lie you demonstrate a gross ignorance equal to young earth creationism or flat earth theory. The question of how to relate the physics of the greenhouse effect to public policy is an immensely complex problem that is not assisted by Trumpian insanity.
KindaSkolarly wrote: Your belief system is so corrosive that it's driving children to suicide. So don't call names, Carbon Boy, unless you want me to do the same.
I don’t believe, KindaSkolarly, that you have the faintest idea of what my belief system is. I think you have a fair point that much of the popular rhetoric on climate change lacks a practical theory of change and therefore damages mental health, but it is far too simplistic and wrong for you to blithely associate my views with such effects.
KindaSkolarly wrote:
A review:
1) The Feds said that anyone who dies after testing positive for the Wuhan virus will be declared a death from the virus. This includes cancer patients, kidney patients, and so on. 95% of the deaths have been in people with other serious health conditions, and they would have died of those conditions soon, but now they're listed as Covid deaths.
The reality is that pandemic deaths are more likely to be under reported than over reported. An excellent article on this is at
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-excess-mortality - A pandemic primer on excess mortality statistics and their comparability across countries, published June 29, 2020.
However, given the track record of KindaSkolarly in preferring political lies over objective analysis, we can’t expect him to show any serious interest in such facts.
KindaSkolarly wrote:
2) The CDC said that since the Wuhan virus and the common cold are both coronaviruses, they will both give positive results for the Covid test. So if you've ever had a cold, you'll test positive for Covid.
Such dangerous fantasy produces complacency and hostility to engagement that actually does contribute materially to public harm, which makes me wonder why Booktalk allows such comments which would be immediately removed by responsible sites like youtube, as we have seen from links KS has shared before.
KindaSkolarly wrote:
3) Using "contact tracing," anybody a Covid positive case comes in contact with is also listed as Covid positive, without testing.
The incontestable point made in the linked article I shared above is that death rates around the world have risen dramatically due to the pandemic, whether directly due to covid infection or indirectly due to strained medical systems, suicide or other causes. So all this deflection from KS about the difficulty of collecting accurate statistics can be ignored by a focus on the end result statistics, which should be truly terrifying to everyone, and especially to people in vulnerable groups.
KindaSkolarly wrote:I have never seen numbers so grossly stacked to predetermine an outcome. The medical/scientific community should be ashamed of itself for shoving the lie of Covid at us. the death rate from Covid is about the same as the flu, yet it's being used to destroy the world economy.
And of course, it is also a massive secretive science conspiracy that man landed on the moon and that the earth is round (sarcasm). How could the death rate from Covid be the same as the flu if the overall US death rate has jumped in 2020 by 132,000 due to COVID?
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html shows the average annual USA flu death toll over the last decade is 37,000, a quarter of the Covid toll from four months.
Zero Hedge is not a reliable site, having been banned for various periods by Twitter, Facebook and Google. However, that chart comes from CDC, at
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... /index.htm
My reading is that the reasons for the decline after the big April death spike are likely to be a combination of late reporting and the shift of the pandemic from old to younger demographics. The implication that the recent low figures are “the only true indicator” is ridiculous, since those numbers are incomplete.