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LanDroid wrote:BookTalk used to be one, or at least more of one. I'm outta here for a while.You do know there are ways to introduce stuff like this via a civilized forum, right?
DWill wrote:Ant, you're too angry about all of this to engage constructively right now. You're becoming abusive.
Are you comparing the current state of America as being the same as The Soviet Union under Stalin?As for tearing down--destroying--the statues, if we decry such vandalism, we might think of how we react to pictures of newly liberated people in the former Soviet Union toppling images of Stalin. How many of us point disapproving fingers at that?
Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. I am not unmindful of the fact that violence often brings about momentary results. Nations have frequently won their independence in battle. But in spite of temporary victories, violence never brings permanent peace. It solves no social problem: it merely creates new and more complicated ones. Violence is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. It is immoral because it seeks to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding: it seeks to annihilate rather than convert. Violence is immoral because it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and makes brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in monologue rather than dialogue. Violence ends up defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers.
Ant, you're making up a lot of strawmen on this thread.ant wrote: So an issue of police brutality is the time to air brush history?
Stop -- just stop, Geo.
I don't recall what I said, but apologize if I came on too strong.ant wrote:So when Geo calls my expressions about some of what's been happening in our nation "bullshit" that's not abusive?.
So the purpose was to dominate the public square with racist attitudes that gave the finger to federal efforts to promote equality of opportunity.geo wrote:Most of our Confederate monuments are essentially propaganda anyway. They were erected in the 1910s-1950s during a resurgence of race riots and civil unrest in our country and while some states were expanding Jim Crow laws to disenfranchise black Americans.
geo wrote:I don't recall what I said, but apologize if I came on too strong.ant wrote:So when Geo calls my expressions about some of what's been happening in our nation "bullshit" that's not abusive?.
What a hackCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Might be that you make good point, but I wish you'd included the clip or transcript of what he said.ant wrote:Chris Cuomo of left wing CNN fame graduated from Yale, has a JD from Fordham U.
He demanded someone show him where it says protests must be peaceful.
I'm not a graduate of Yale, but I too can tell him it says it in The First Amendment
What a hackCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
