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Protect the at-risk, reopen business, re-open schools, and have some hydroxychloroquine and zinc onhand to treat the sniffles.


And drink bleach?

Ignore this people.

I have yet to hear of a good way to protect the at-risk. They must still have contact with society, someway, somehow. It's like letting a wildfire rage, and hoping it doesn't affect the people stuck in a house in the middle of it. Unless you dampen the impact wholesale, it will spread to the at-risk unless they're all locked down with truly draconian measures.

I agree with reopening businesses, but I think it's too late for schools. We could re-open intelligently, but that still includes sanitation measures, masks, and distancing. That holds true unless and until scientific studies show there are better ways, or that they are ineffective.

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It's to the point where I wonder why you've neglected to cite 5G (or maybe you have and I missed it).


He did, a month or so back. Haven't heard much since. I guess you can only don a handful of tinfoil hats at a time.


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This is the best summary about the Plandemic Lockdown Scam I've come across so far:

I Am Watching What I Wrote About Thirty Years Ago Playing Out In Real Life
https://www.bitchute.com/video/T8oC8VX3RQud/

Bitchute is growing thanks to Youtube's fascism. Youtube is now taking down videos that don't promote the Chinese Communist Party. Icke goes over all of that in the above. The Social Credit Score.

People who still promote lockdowns in the US are now working AGAINST science. We haven't had science guiding things, we've had scientists. And they're corrupt. Bill Gates' lackies. And their advice has been crap. Then there are the ChiCom governors sending old people to nursing homes to infect the healthy. Death camps in the Democratic-controlled states.

Dem Governors Keep Sending Covid Patients to Nursing Homes
infowars.com/dem-governors-keep-sending ... ing-homes/

But people are aware of the scam now. And not just in America:

Italian MP Sara Cunial Speaks the Truth About Covid-19
youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3EE7EMfXc&fea ... e=youtu.be

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Why doesn't this surprise me? Luminescence/Lucifer...it's all a coincidence, right?

Enzyme that will make Bill Gates’ vaccine microchip implant work known as LUCIFERASE
"Part of the plan for vaccination against the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) is to inject people with syringes that contain implantable “quantum dot” tattoos, which we reported are a type of microchip that would seem to constitute the Mark of the Beast. And further proof of this comes in the form of the enzyme that Bill Gates has chosen to make it all possible, which has been ominously dubbed “luciferase.” ... According to reports, luciferase will activate these quantum dot “microneedles,” as they are also called, effectively delivering the so-called vaccines into people’s bodies. This “near infrared bioluminescence enzyme luciferase” is what will make the Gates vaccines readable through special mobile device apps that will scan the injection site and identify the “digital certificates,” or proof of vaccination, that Gates and others have been publicly announcing in recent days...."
naturalnews.com/2020-05-15-enzyme-bill- ... erase.html

Shock As It’s Revealed An Enzyme Called Luciferase Is What Makes Bill Gates Implantable Quantum Dot Microneedle Vaccine Delivery System Work
nowtheendbegins.com/bill-gates-human-im ... erase-666/

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Maybe you aren't aware of the above because of this:

Fake News Pusher Bill Gates Controls FactChecker and Politifact line on Vaccines
fort-russ.com/2020/05/kennedy-fake-news ... -vaccines/

And then there's this. The man credited with eradicating smallpox says lockdowns are not a good idea.

Study Led by D.A. Henderson — The Man Who Eradicated Smallpox — Found Draconian Lockdowns for Flu Pandemics Ineffective and Even Destructive
A very short piece. Look at the highlighted parts.
hideoutnow.com/2020/05/study-led-by-da- ... n-who.html

All of the "scientific" numbers we've been fed regarding the Wuhan epidemic are bogus, and the man who eradicated smallpox says we shouldn't lock down. So why are we doing it? People in power are attempting to destroy the U.S. at the minimum, the world at most. Two months into a two-week lockdown, the fascist Democrats in various states and cities are keeping their people under house arrest.

Tucker: America is splitting into two before our eyes
youtube.com/watch?v=bIFh9aHkf0c&fea ... e=youtu.be

Out Of Touch | Kevin James Short Film
youtube.com/watch?v=wfGAktuU93s&fea ... e=youtu.be

But our Attorney General is trying to restore rights to those citizens being held captive:

Barr Threatens To Sue States That Keep Stay At Home Orders In Place
investmentwatchblog.com/barr-threatens- ... -in-place/

Trump's son Eric said the Plandemic will be over in November, and I tend to agree. The Leftists have weaponized a medical situation to win an election. While you're forced to wear masks and lose your home.

An article that touches on the plandemic:

How Huxley’s X-Club Created Nature Magazine and Sabotaged Science for 150 Years
strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/13/h ... 150-years/


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Tucker: America is splitting into two before our eyes
youtube.com/watch?v=bIFh9aHkf0c&fea ... e=youtu.be


And the split appears to be between conspiracy theory crackpots promoting obvious lies, like yourself, and those with a bit more critical thinking, or those who avoid the echo chambers.

KS, you are part of the problem here. Why not keep your false ideas to yourself?


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I think some people are trapped in a vortex of viewing everything in terms of hidden sin and lurking evil. It reminds me of Dante's Inferno where hell is the state of being eternally immersed in nothing but violence, fraud, greed, treachery, etc. It must surely be hellish to see the world like this.



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We have been lied to: 6 facts that change everything we know about SARS-CoV-2
1) The shocking inflation of COVID-19 death numbers
2) States with longer lockdowns had worse results
3) Outside nursing homes, the fatality rate never warranted such action
4) Outside New York, this is barely worse than bad flu seasons
5) Excess deaths are from the lockdowns, not the virus
And I especially like number 6:
6) Social distancing was invented by a high-school kid and politicians, not scientists - "Jeffrey Tucker of the American Institute for Economic research reports that the origin of this cult of “social distancing” being used for totalitarian lockdowns was the brainchild of a high schooler’s sociology paper in 2006, promoted by the Bush administration during the avian flu. It was widely mocked by the epidemiological community, including by Johns Hopkins, for “causing the potential for a ‘serious adverse outcome,’” thereby ensuring that “a manageable epidemic could move toward catastrophe.”
investmentwatchblog.com/we-have-been-li ... ars-cov-2/

Fauci and Bill Gates are in business together. They're pushing a vaccine from a company called Moderna, which has never marketed a vaccine:

CATASTROPHE: 20% of Human Test Subjects Severely Injured from Gates-Fauci Coronavirus Vaccine by Moderna
Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies. ... Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab. ... Moderna allowed only exceptionally healthy volunteers to participate in the study. A vaccine with those reaction rates could cause grave injuries in 1.5 billion humans if administered to “every person on earth”. ... That is the threshold that Gates has established for ending the global lockdown.
fort-russ.com/2020/05/catastrophe-20-of ... y-moderna/

Fauci knew exactly what the ferret studies would show. Death. Ferrets are the animal of choice for this kind of lab testing. A blast from the past below. Baxter Pharmaceutical mixed Avian flu with seasonal flu in its 2009 vaccine. They shipped it to the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. They tried to start an epidemic.

Baxter Pharmaceutical Mixed Avian Flu with Flu Vaccine
...The incident was discovered by a technician in a facility in the Czech Republic, who injected ferrets with the vaccine as a normal test procedure. The ferrets died. ... Let that sink in. ... If not discovered by a mid-level technician, many of the people immunized with the Baxter vaccine might have been infected with avian flu, which can be deadly. ... But it’s worse than that. ... H5N1 is not easily transmissible between people. However, the common flu virus that it was mixed with does easily infect people. The real danger in this incident is that the two viruses could have mixed genetic material and mutated when injected into tens of thousands of people, and could have created a hybrid virus that was both deadly, and transmissible.
opednews.com/articles/Still-Think-They- ... 5-202.html

It looks as if a pLandemic was supposed to happen in 2009. Baxter Pharmaceutical had the poison ready to inject, and a high schooler had done all the advanced brain work behind "social distancing." But then a pesky lab worker tested the death shot on ferrets. So the plan had to be delayed.

You're being held captive, people, under house arrest. And your captors want you dead as a term of your release. Snap out of it. You are in the clutches of mass-murdering psychopaths.

Psychotherapist: Lockdown Zealots Are Behaving Like Cult Members
summit.news/2020/05/18/psychotherapist- ... t-members/

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Post Re: Coronavirus
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. . . 6) Social distancing was invented by a high-school kid . . .


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The Untold Story of the Birth of Social Distancing
"The idea has been around for centuries. But it took a high school science fair, George W. Bush, history lessons and some determined researchers to overcome skepticism and make it federal policy...."
nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/politics/soci ... virus.html

Gee. From the Mother of All Propaganda Rags, no less.

Let's see what a REAL expert has to say about social distancing:

Study Led by D.A. Henderson — The Man Who Eradicated Smallpox — Found Draconian Lockdowns for Flu Pandemics Ineffective and Even Destructive

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thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/study-led- ... structive/

The Wuhan pandemic has served its purpose--it will be blamed for the coming economic depression. The people responsible for the depression will now be able to avoid accountability. And as a bonus, the eugenics/depopulation crowd will get to kill millions and millions. Look at how Gates and Fauci tried to sneak their Moderna vaccine into your bloodstream. The projection is that the shot would kill 1.5 billion people. This is pretty important. It bears repeating:

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CATASTROPHE: 20% of Human Test Subjects Severely Injured from Gates-Fauci Coronavirus Vaccine by Moderna
Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies. ... Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab. ... Moderna allowed only exceptionally healthy volunteers to participate in the study. A vaccine with those reaction rates could cause grave injuries in 1.5 billion humans if administered to “every person on earth”. ... That is the threshold that Gates has established for ending the global lockdown.
[url]fort-russ.com/2020/05/catastrophe-20-of ... y-moderna/[/url]

Fauci knew exactly what the ferret studies would show. Death. Ferrets are the animal of choice for this kind of lab testing. A blast from the past below. Baxter Pharmaceutical mixed Avian flu with seasonal flu in its 2009 vaccine. They shipped it to the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany. They tried to start an epidemic.

Baxter Pharmaceutical Mixed Avian Flu with Flu Vaccine
...The incident was discovered by a technician in a facility in the Czech Republic, who injected ferrets with the vaccine as a normal test procedure. The ferrets died. ... Let that sink in. ... If not discovered by a mid-level technician, many of the people immunized with the Baxter vaccine might have been infected with avian flu, which can be deadly. ... But it’s worse than that. ... H5N1 is not easily transmissible between people. However, the common flu virus that it was mixed with does easily infect people. The real danger in this incident is that the two viruses could have mixed genetic material and mutated when injected into tens of thousands of people, and could have created a hybrid virus that was both deadly, and transmissible.
[url]opednews.com/articles/Still-Think-They- ... 5-202.html[/url]

But why be so gloomy? The Cuomo brothers of New York are here to entertain us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7G7GcOgB_o

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The one on the right, the governor, killed thousands of old people by forcing them into nursing homes when they were diagnosed with the Wuhan virus. What's not to joke about? Leftists are teaching us that murder and fascism need not be sad.


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FYI, my vote is now against keeping KS on Booktalk. He doesn't engage, and simply uses the forum as a place to spout his lunacy. It would be different if there were some sort of dialogue. But it's like trying to talk to a dandelion. All we get is an endless spew of conspiracy.


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FYI, my vote is now against keeping KS on Booktalk. He doesn't engage, and simply uses the forum as a place to spout his lunacy. It would be different if there were some sort of dialogue. But it's like trying to talk to a dandelion. All we get is an endless spew of conspiracy.


Hi Interbane, I assume it is up to Chris to decide on banning. I completely endorse your comments here. KindaSkolarly has used booktalk as a propaganda platform to promote fake news. I think that is bad for the reputation and impression that booktalk creates and for the objective of promoting rational dialogue.


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What changed CA Governor Newsom's mind to suddenly give the okay to reopen churches?

Is he finally looking at the data?

Is he concerned about his political career, generally speaking?


How many liberals have a sour stomach over this decision and will want to argue taxing churches if they are indeed "essential services" ?



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By explicitly and categorically assigning all in-person ‘religious services’ to a future Phase 3 — without any express regard to the number of attendees, the size of the space, or the safety protocols followed in such services8 — the State’s Reopening Plan undeniably ‘discriminate[s] on its face’ against ‘religious conduct,’” the judge said.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... own-278641


He was discriminating against them

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What changed CA Governor Newsom's mind to suddenly give the okay to reopen churches?

Is he finally looking at the data?

Is he concerned about his political career, generally speaking?

He was discriminating against them

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You are quoting one dissenting legal opinion, but not the side of the majority:

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“We’re dealing here with a highly contagious and often fatal disease for which there presently is no known cure,’” Judges Barry Silverman and Jacqueline Nguyen wrote. “In the words of Justice Robert Jackson, if a ‘court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact.’”


Why would a church be exempt from a state's lockdown measures that are intended to protect its citizens? Was Gov. Newsom also discriminating against movie theaters and restaurants? The discrimination argument doesn't pass muster, in my opinion.

It gets a little complicated when governments try to make rules for churches, given the whole separation of church and state thing, don't you reckon? But even so, churches aren't sovereign territories. You would close down churches for the same reason you close down movie theaters.

In that respect, Gov. Newsom is being consistent. He lifted the lockdown orders for churches at the same time he did for retail stores. I think you're tilting at windmills, Ant.


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I am doing no such thing.

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movie theaters and restaurants are not places were people practice religion - something that is protected by law.. this is apples to oranges, but I suppose not to non believers.
I understand the deep antipathy in play here, Geo.

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In that respect, Gov. Newsom is being consistent.


In no respect is the above "consistent" with anything Newsom is on record saying.
Newsom had places of worship on an indefinite timetable for opening... Making the distinction between a place people congregate to freely practice their religion and gathering in a building to eat mac n cheese with a greasy hot dog are not even in the same ballpark

I support the pressure from the White House to open churches. Religion is important in many very good people's lives. It is a positive experience that fosters good will.
Although I am agnostic I pleased with this.



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FYI, my vote is now against keeping KS on Booktalk. He doesn't engage, and simply uses the forum as a place to spout his lunacy. It would be different if there were some sort of dialogue. But it's like trying to talk to a dandelion. All we get is an endless spew of conspiracy.

Geez. I guess I should look at my last post here, to see where I transgressed.

OK, I made four points:

1) I mentioned a history of how "social distancing" came to be federal policy.
2) I referenced a piece about how the ultimate pandemic expert, D.A. Henderson, was against drastic actions like lockdowns.
3) I reiterated the horrifying stories about the Moderna vaccine test catastrophe and the 2009 Baxter Pharmaceutical scandal.
4) I posted the video of the Cuomo brothers joking about death.

For point #1 I linked to the NY Times, and for #4 to CNN. Both of those are bastions of leftism, so if I'm spreading conspiracy, then it's leftist conspiracy.

And lunacy? The above things happened. Read the stories, watch the videos. I admit it's some crazy stuff, but...it HAPPENED.

Leftists are currently trying to purge all dissent on the internet, and they're doing it because of the upcoming debate over vaccines. They can't win that one. The vaccine industry has left a long, bloody trail, and the only way to address it is to NOT address it.

SV40 comes to mind. Millions of Americans received polio vaccines containing Simian Virus 40 between 1955 and 1963:

CDC Admits 98 Million Americans Received Polio Vaccine in an 8-Year Span When It Was Contaminated with Cancer Virus
renegadetribune.com/cdc-admits-98-milli ... cer-virus/

Below is a piece about Dr. Maurice Hillerman, who was one of the world's leaders in vaccine technology back then. Listen to how cavalier he is about the enormous damage he did to humanity. He and his peers LAUGH about it in the video contained within the article:

Dr. Maurice Hilleman explains why Merck’s vaccines have spread AIDS & other plagues worldwide
https://thongtinvaccine.wordpress.com/2 ... n-youtube/

Anyway, the leaders of the left are hoping to inject all of humanity with no telling what, and the action is indefensible. So they need to silence those who object. To be fair the Right is also part of the problem, but that's mostly because of ignorance and greed. The Left knows what it's doing and is just anti-human.

Here's a chart relating to Bill Gates. Note that he gives money to the Imperial College of London, which released the first Fake Model regarding the Wuhan virus. He gives money to the W.H.O., which has done China's bidding throughout the plandemic. He gives money to the CDC, which just announced that they were wrong, the virus doesn't stay active on hard surfaces for 18 hours after all. On and on. Gates is funding a misinformation campaign, apparently so he can inject us.

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