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KindaSkolarly wrote:[
Michael Savage talked about quercetin on his show yesterday (3/30/20).

tunein.com/podcasts/Conservative-Talk/T ... =140818176

He's got degrees in biology, botany and whatnot. At about 52:00 he talks about quercetin. We eat enough of the foods he mentions (dark fruits, capers, olive oil), that we won't take quercetin as a supplement. But with the foods and the new zinc supplement, we should be better protected against viral infection now. ALL viruses. And all we had to do was add 25mg of cheap zinc to our daily intake.
Why do his degrees matter so much (Ph.D. in nutritional ethnomedicine)? If he has done relevant peer-reviewed research, or has cited the same, that's worthy to note. But experts show their value as much by what they won't say as by what they will. Witness Trump trying to get his experts to go beyond the mandate of their knowledge of virus transmission. Fauci and Birx won't go there.
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January 5, 2020 WHO advisement on travel:

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the current information available on this event.
https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january- ... -china/en/



House Committee meeting Feb 5 - Democrats call witnesses for comments on travel restrictions in response to the virus:

The United States and other countries around the world have put in place unprecedented travel restrictions in response to the virus,” said Democratic Rep. Eliot L. Engel. “These measures have not proven to improve public health outcomes, rather they tend to cause economic harm and to stoke racist and discriminatory responses to this epidemic.
A day earlier, Democratic Rep. Ami Bera, who presided over the hearing, told Politico, “In our response we can’t create prejudices and harbor anxieties toward one population.” Bera told Politico the decision to impose travel restrictions “probably doesn’t make sense” given that the outbreak had already spread to several other countries by that point. “At this juncture, it’s going to be very hard to contain the virus,” Bera said.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-f ... trictions/


Although no direct democratic criticism of Trump's early travel restrictions to China is available for quotation, the above comments by democrats within the context of the COVID 19 pandemic can be reasonably construed as criticism of the Trump travel restrictions on China.


Let's not finger point too much during a pandemic.
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ant wrote:Although no direct democratic criticism of Trump's early travel restrictions to China is available for quotation, the above comments by democrats within the context of the COVID 19 pandemic can be reasonably construed as criticism of the Trump travel restrictions on China.
The criticism isn't unjustified. Like I said, the cat was already out of the bag.

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/ ... earing.pdf

The entire thing is worth a read, but the relevant part to travel from China is on page 8.
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The Lancet study cited in the report indicates it's not known when the virus adapted and became transmittable to humans.. It also reported that symptoms outside of Wuhan were "mild"
It also speculates the virus may have actually been active in early December.
The WHO declared a pandemic on January 30. US suspension of flights to China began January 31 (again, cheaply and indirectly criticized by democrats)

Did you expect a US reaction to a pandemic back in December 2019? On what grounds, suspicion?

Anyway,
one huge unknown is when COVID 19 was actually seeded in the US. There's been so much deception coming from China. The report you linked actually praises China. Unbelievable!!


So when exactly did COVID 19 seed in the US?

Flu season started unusually early in the States and in the UK:
Health officials said late 2019 it's the earliest winter start for the flu in more than 15 years.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news ... fore-usual

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... d-NOW.html

This isn't "just the flu" We agree on that. However there's no denying the overlap between flu symptoms and what's been reported as symptoms of COVID 19..

https://cgsentinel.com/article/symptoms ... r-covid-19


As early as November influenza diagnoses may have actually been COVID 19 positives because as everyone knows we didn't have COVID 19 testing ability yet.

China knew days before notifying the WHO on December 31st and weeks before notifying the world. How far back are we really talking here?
Chillingly, asymptomatic people may have actually started to spread COVID across borders earlier than what's been estimated.

Are you going to blame republicans for not being on their toes about all this?

This isn't really the time to be pointing fingers at what people should have known and done when there are too many unknowns.
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Could Covid 19 have been genetically engineered? There are some fascinating questions about Gain Of Function genetic engineering. A bat virus could conceivably have had a pangolin receptor added, and this augmented virus could then have passed through ferrets to increase its virulence using natural selection. That looks rather like some actual gain of function research widely published.

The motive may have been to develop an HIV vaccine at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, accidentally creating a monster that escaped, a stuff-up rather than a conspiracy. Sorry guys, aw shucks, guess we goofed!!

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I recommend this podcast by J.C. On A Bike, both for the high speed bicycle ride through commuter Pittsburgh, and the exploration of the science about how the genetic engineering hypothesis should not be ruled out.

For more detail see Logistical and Technical Exploration into the Origins of the Wuhan Strain of Coronavirus (COVID-19)
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An interview with Dr. Francis Boyle back in February. The parts in bold touch on bioengineering. The virus is manmade, or so Boyle says, and he convinced me.

newswars.com/full-transcript-of-smoking ... ronavirus/

One of the more interesting things I've come across while reading about the virus:

The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life
"In The Invisible Rainbow, Firstenberg traces the history of electricity from the early eighteenth century to the present, making a compelling case that many environmental problems, as well as the major diseases of industrialized civilization―heart disease, diabetes, and cancer―are related to electrical pollution."
amazon.com/Invisible-Rainbow-History-El ... 1645020096

Building on the thesis that electricity is harmful, the doctor in the video below says that the Spanish Flu was a result of radio being activated around the world in the fall of 1917. He links several pandemics to leaps in the electrification of the planet:

Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D. discusses the Coronavirus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUw1Rzbde5U

Cowan says that within 6 months of each major step in electrifying the world, there was a new "flu" pandemic. The video's well worth the 10 minutes to watch. He says that the Spanish Flu was not contagious. They injected snot from infected victims into healthy people (a Boston experiment involving hundreds), and there was no transmitted infection. It was the radio waves.

Central China province launches commercial 5G applications
china.org.cn/china/Off_the_Wire/2019-10 ... 359990.htm

Published on Oct 31, about the time of the Wuhan outbreak.
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KS wrote:Cowan says that within 6 months of each major step in electrifying the world, there was a new "flu" pandemic. The video's well worth the 10 minutes to watch. He says that the Spanish Flu was not contagious. They injected snot from infected victims into healthy people (a Boston experiment involving hundreds), and there was no transmitted infection. It was the radio waves.
It was the radio waves. :slap:

Sometimes you post stuff just to get a rise out of people. Am I wrong?
The virus is manmade, or so Boyle says, and he convinced me.
Why is it that you're so easily convinced of things that might not be true, but you're impossibly antagonistic against things that might be true?
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So you don't have a questioning mind. That's fine. But you shouldn't expect everybody to goosestep to your drummer.

The above information addresses how electricity (manmade electricity) is relatively new. We're bioelectrical organisms, so how has the proliferation of electricity around the world affected us? Nobody knows for sure, because corporations have given us "answers" that lead to profit. The unprofitable has been left in the dustbin of history.

But what happens when a cell is threatened by a powerful electrical field? How does it respond? Dr. Firstenberg says that if the attack is overwhelming enough then the cell breaks down and secretes toxins in the form of genetic material. This material gets into other cells and replicates. And this happens to lots of (but not all) the people in the affected area (broadcast range). Because of this spontaneous appearance in so many, we assume that something is being spread contagiously. But it's not. The same "viruses" appear in large clusters of people because large areas are experiencing the same electrical bombardment.

I know this has the smell of flat-earth / manmade climate change about it, and I have no way to know whether there's any truth to it. But it IS an elegant explanation of "viral" illness. Much simpler than the "bat soup in the fish market" lies we're always fed. AIDS came from Africans having sex with green monkeys. And now we're going to be hit with hantavirus because those Chinese are at it again, biting the heads off of live rats. Give me a break.

I found this article tonight, some selections from Dr. Firstenberg's book:

Coronavirus, Spanish flu, Influenza, Marconi, Tesla, Radio and Electrification

The 1918 flu was not caused by a virus.

The 1918 flu was not contagious and did not spread by direct human-to-human contact.

The 1918 flu began on U.S. military bases where soldiers were being trained in wireless telegraphy. It spread throughout the world on ten thousand U.S. Navy ships equipped with state-of-the-art wireless stations. It became much more deadly in September 1918 when the first round-the-clock voice radio station powerful enough to be received in most parts of the world went on the air in New Brunswick, New Jersey in service of the U.S. war effort, thereby launching the modern era of radio communication.

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Efforts by doctors working for the U.S. Public Health Service to prove the contagious nature of the 1918 flu were heroic and resulted in resounding and repeated failure. In November and December 1918 and in February and March 1919, they attempted to infect one hundred healthy volunteers with influenza in the following ways:

 They put secretions from the mouth, nose, throat and bronchi from hospitalized influenza patients into the nose, throat and eyes of volunteers;
 They injected blood from sick patients into volunteers;
 They filtered mucous material from sick ptients and injected it under the skin of volunteers;
 They had volunteers shake hands with sick patients, talk to them, faces close together, for five minutes, then had the patient breathe out as hard as he could while the volunteer, two inches away, was breathing in, then had the patient cough directly into the face of the volunteer, five times.

None of the volunteers in any of these experiments got sick in any way.

reddit.com/r/Jesuitworldorder/comments/ ... oni_tesla/

I'm just saying that this information is new to me, and interesting. I don't necessarily believe it, but neither do I believe the bullshit coming out of the World Health Organization or the CDC at the moment. Their shifting numbers have created an opportunity for governments to expand police state powers. THAT is something that can be proven. The Wuhan pandemic may not have been created for the purpose of stealing our rights, but that's what it's being used for.

Dr. Anthony Fauci Plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with Bill Gates Before Pushing COVID Panic and Doubts About Hydroxychloroquine Treatments
bigleaguepolitics.com/dr-anthony-fauci- ... reatments/

CBS Airs Sobbing Nurse Claiming There Aren’t Enough Masks – It Was BS
CBS news aired this deranged woman, and added emotive music to the sound track. Everything she said was a lie. Just the network's run of the mill fear mongering.
infowars.com/cbs-airs-sobbing-nurse-cla ... it-was-bs/

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Why hasn't the world been constantly under attack by deadly viruses ever since electrification? Why has electricity had such a pronounced effect on humans but not, apparently, on other animals? A true questioning mind wouldn't fail to ask.
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KS wrote:So you don't have a questioning mind. That's fine. But you shouldn't expect everybody to goosestep to your drummer.
That's a paradoxical assessment. I do question everything, including everything you write. Why don't you question the things you read and regurgitate here?

Regarding electricity and viruses, you're so out of your depth that it's comical.
But it IS an elegant explanation of "viral" illness.
It's only elegant to someone who doesn't have a rudimentary understanding of how things work. I'm sorry for being arrogant, but you're truly clueless KS.
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