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Boost your immune system and get back to your old life ASAP.


To anyone reading this thread, ignore this. Maintain social distancing.

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CBS tried to convince you that New York hospitals were overrun with patients.


Why listen to the news when I have in-laws who work in the hospitals there? They hospitals are getting crushed. Stop trying to twist this into some delusional conspiracy.


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Not good
(how accurate though?)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/china-be ... oronavirus


As a nation we need to seriously begin to isolate ourselves indefinitely from China - economically as well as physically (no flights to or from China)
Frankly, the entire international community needs to consider doing the same



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Some of my previous Air Force colleagues are in the space field, specifically satellites. The deaths reported by China are not matching what our satellites see happening at their morgues, hospitals, crematoriums, etc. Our intelligence community has been very much aware of what's going on the entire time. China is hiding things from the media, but not our government. Our government was not blindsided by this. Factions of our government have been screaming for action since January, but they've been ignored.

We're lead by people who have so much arrogance that they think their beliefs will outweigh reality.


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Why would CBS lie? Out of habit?

The Chinese Communists definitely can't be trusted. They created the new virus out of SARS and HIV and no telling what else, and then when it got out of the lab they kept the news to themselves. They knew that if they shut down their country for containment it would send them into an economic depression. Rather than allow that, they let the virus spread around the world, so that ALL economies would suffer.

China needs to reimburse the world for what they did. Trillions of dollars of repayment. They won't, of course, so I wouldn't be surprised if their intransigence results in WW3. They have a big interest in Venezuela, and it looks as if the US might be making moves against the Maduro government there. Get rid of Maduro, seize the ChiCom assets. And then start seizing their assets in the rest of the Western Hemisphere.

Steve Bannon spoke some time ago about the Chinese people needing to throw out the thuggish Mao holdovers. Maybe the coronavirus will be the catalyst for action. Chinese citizens aren't too happy about what's happening right now. The first half of this interview is excellent (he repeats the info in the second half):

Steve Bannon: Pandemic! Coronavirus Is Out of Control In China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF0LcQO9Tg

It's been interesting in the US to watch the Democratic-controlled states resort to totalitarian lockdowns so quickly. And they push them to such absurd extremes.

Malibu Officials: Paddleboarder arrested at Malibu Pier for flouting state stay at home order
ktla.com/news/local-news/officials-padd ... ome-order/

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I'm glad that Trump hasn't allowed himself to be bullied, thus far at least, into a national lockdown. He's leaving such decisions up to the states. And he announced today that he probably won't be wearing a mask. That's good. American presidents have a tradition of projecting strength and confidence.

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Trump needs to fire his advisor Dr. Fauci. On January 21 Fauci said that America was under no threat from the virus. Ten days later Trump restricted travel from China. Now Fauci says Trump needs to do a shutdown of our economy. Fauci is either a ChiCom facilitator or unstable:

Fauci Love Letters to Hillary Clinton Surface...
theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20 ... -surfaces/

And what can you say about Nancy Pelosi? On Jan 31 she called Trump's China restrictions unnecessary. A month later she was in San Francisco's Chinatown telling people to visit the restaurants there. Now she's accusing Trump of reacting slowly to the crisis.

Pelosi - Come to Chinatown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZBFUA0JjFk

Seattle, NY City, and Pelosi's San Francisco were the first 3 hotspots in the US. All three cities had large numbers of Chinese nationals returning to the US after celebrating Chinese New Years in the old country. Those cities should have been quarantined, but that was back when the Dems were calling Trump a racist for axing flights from China. Hopefully America has now had a craw full of leftist horseshit, and hotspots can be sealed off as they pop up. Do that, relax restrictions where the numbers are low, and begin the recovery.

What else?

Here are some new guidelines from the NVSS, the National Vital Statistics System. "COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death." So now the virus will be mentioned on death certificates if it is ASSUMED to have CONTRIBUTED to a death. This will greatly inflate the virus death numbers that the media reports to us.
cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Aler ... deaths.pdf

The Governor of Connecticut shamelessly tried to fudge the death numbers when a child died. “A 6-week-old newborn from the Hartford area was brought unresponsive to a hospital late last week and could not be revived. Testing confirmed last night that the newborn was COVID-19 positive.” OK, she was positive. But what did she die of? He didn't say. It's just fearmongering, to scare people into accepting dictatorship. Fortunately he got called on what he did. Candace Owens was so steamed that she said she decided to run for office. That's good news. She's super.

‘SCUM BEHAVIOR’: Candace Owens Unloads On Governor For Tweeting Newborn’s Death ‘Linked To COVID-19’
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Mike Weinberger: I'm Sick of Hearing About the Coronavirus
...even if it (the death toll) reaches 70,000 that’s still less than one person out of every five thousand. ... Do you know five thousand people? If not, the odds are you wouldn’t even know anyone who would have died from the virus. Again, that’s not to say the death of 70,000 people is something to ignore, but it is also not something that justifies wrecking the lives of 330,000,000....
...The important thing, when confronted with a problem that can take the life of one out of every 10,000, is to focus on the remaining 9,999 — not just the one. A herd of buffalo does not commit suicide if one member is taken by a pack of wolves, and we cannot commit national suicide because one American out of five or ten thousand is taken by this disease....
hideoutnow.com/2020/04/mike-weinberger- ... aring.html


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Post Re: Coronavirus
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Why would CBS lie? Out of habit?


Who cares? You're missing the point.


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Trump needs to fire his advisor Dr. Fauci. On January 21 Fauci said that America was under no threat from the virus.


Maybe so, but that soundbite is obviously a flawed meme you soaked up from a far right site. You need to fire whoever is delivering you news, because it's rotting your brain.

Here's the rest of what Dr. Fauci said on January 21: "“Obviously, you need to take it seriously, and do the kinds of things that the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security are doing, ”

Regarding travel restrictions, the cat was already out of the bag. Read Nuzzo's speech from February 5th. Fauci and the rest of the experts followed the science and saw the growth patterns. They became wise to the math. Yet a month later, Trump was still saying it would go away like a miracle.


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Michael Savage talked about quercetin on his show yesterday (3/30/20).

tunein.com/podcasts/Conservative-Talk/T ... =140818176

He's got degrees in biology, botany and whatnot. At about 52:00 he talks about quercetin. We eat enough of the foods he mentions (dark fruits, capers, olive oil), that we won't take quercetin as a supplement. But with the foods and the new zinc supplement, we should be better protected against viral infection now. ALL viruses. And all we had to do was add 25mg of cheap zinc to our daily intake.

Why do his degrees matter so much (Ph.D. in nutritional ethnomedicine)? If he has done relevant peer-reviewed research, or has cited the same, that's worthy to note. But experts show their value as much by what they won't say as by what they will. Witness Trump trying to get his experts to go beyond the mandate of their knowledge of virus transmission. Fauci and Birx won't go there.



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January 5, 2020 WHO advisement on travel:


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WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the current information available on this event.


https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january- ... -china/en/



House Committee meeting Feb 5 - Democrats call witnesses for comments on travel restrictions in response to the virus:


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The United States and other countries around the world have put in place unprecedented travel restrictions in response to the virus,” said Democratic Rep. Eliot L. Engel. “These measures have not proven to improve public health outcomes, rather they tend to cause economic harm and to stoke racist and discriminatory responses to this epidemic.


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A day earlier, Democratic Rep. Ami Bera, who presided over the hearing, told Politico, “In our response we can’t create prejudices and harbor anxieties toward one population.” Bera told Politico the decision to impose travel restrictions “probably doesn’t make sense” given that the outbreak had already spread to several other countries by that point. “At this juncture, it’s going to be very hard to contain the virus,” Bera said.


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Although no direct democratic criticism of Trump's early travel restrictions to China is available for quotation, the above comments by democrats within the context of the COVID 19 pandemic can be reasonably construed as criticism of the Trump travel restrictions on China.


Let's not finger point too much during a pandemic.



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Although no direct democratic criticism of Trump's early travel restrictions to China is available for quotation, the above comments by democrats within the context of the COVID 19 pandemic can be reasonably construed as criticism of the Trump travel restrictions on China.


The criticism isn't unjustified. Like I said, the cat was already out of the bag.

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/ ... earing.pdf

The entire thing is worth a read, but the relevant part to travel from China is on page 8.


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The Lancet study cited in the report indicates it's not known when the virus adapted and became transmittable to humans.. It also reported that symptoms outside of Wuhan were "mild"
It also speculates the virus may have actually been active in early December.
The WHO declared a pandemic on January 30. US suspension of flights to China began January 31 (again, cheaply and indirectly criticized by democrats)

Did you expect a US reaction to a pandemic back in December 2019? On what grounds, suspicion?

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one huge unknown is when COVID 19 was actually seeded in the US. There's been so much deception coming from China. The report you linked actually praises China. Unbelievable!!


So when exactly did COVID 19 seed in the US?

Flu season started unusually early in the States and in the UK:

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Health officials said late 2019 it's the earliest winter start for the flu in more than 15 years.


https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news ... fore-usual

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... d-NOW.html

This isn't "just the flu" We agree on that. However there's no denying the overlap between flu symptoms and what's been reported as symptoms of COVID 19..

https://cgsentinel.com/article/symptoms ... r-covid-19


As early as November influenza diagnoses may have actually been COVID 19 positives because as everyone knows we didn't have COVID 19 testing ability yet.

China knew days before notifying the WHO on December 31st and weeks before notifying the world. How far back are we really talking here?
Chillingly, asymptomatic people may have actually started to spread COVID across borders earlier than what's been estimated.

Are you going to blame republicans for not being on their toes about all this?

This isn't really the time to be pointing fingers at what people should have known and done when there are too many unknowns.



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Could Covid 19 have been genetically engineered? There are some fascinating questions about Gain Of Function genetic engineering. A bat virus could conceivably have had a pangolin receptor added, and this augmented virus could then have passed through ferrets to increase its virulence using natural selection. That looks rather like some actual gain of function research widely published.

The motive may have been to develop an HIV vaccine at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, accidentally creating a monster that escaped, a stuff-up rather than a conspiracy. Sorry guys, aw shucks, guess we goofed!!

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I recommend this podcast by J.C. On A Bike, both for the high speed bicycle ride through commuter Pittsburgh, and the exploration of the science about how the genetic engineering hypothesis should not be ruled out.

For more detail see Logistical and Technical Exploration into the Origins of the Wuhan Strain of Coronavirus (COVID-19)


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An interview with Dr. Francis Boyle back in February. The parts in bold touch on bioengineering. The virus is manmade, or so Boyle says, and he convinced me.

newswars.com/full-transcript-of-smoking ... ronavirus/

One of the more interesting things I've come across while reading about the virus:

The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life
"In The Invisible Rainbow, Firstenberg traces the history of electricity from the early eighteenth century to the present, making a compelling case that many environmental problems, as well as the major diseases of industrialized civilization―heart disease, diabetes, and cancer―are related to electrical pollution."
amazon.com/Invisible-Rainbow-History-El ... 1645020096

Building on the thesis that electricity is harmful, the doctor in the video below says that the Spanish Flu was a result of radio being activated around the world in the fall of 1917. He links several pandemics to leaps in the electrification of the planet:

Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D. discusses the Coronavirus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUw1Rzbde5U

Cowan says that within 6 months of each major step in electrifying the world, there was a new "flu" pandemic. The video's well worth the 10 minutes to watch. He says that the Spanish Flu was not contagious. They injected snot from infected victims into healthy people (a Boston experiment involving hundreds), and there was no transmitted infection. It was the radio waves.

Central China province launches commercial 5G applications
china.org.cn/china/Off_the_Wire/2019-10 ... 359990.htm

Published on Oct 31, about the time of the Wuhan outbreak.


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Cowan says that within 6 months of each major step in electrifying the world, there was a new "flu" pandemic. The video's well worth the 10 minutes to watch. He says that the Spanish Flu was not contagious. They injected snot from infected victims into healthy people (a Boston experiment involving hundreds), and there was no transmitted infection. It was the radio waves.


It was the radio waves. :slap:

Sometimes you post stuff just to get a rise out of people. Am I wrong?

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Why is it that you're so easily convinced of things that might not be true, but you're impossibly antagonistic against things that might be true?


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So you don't have a questioning mind. That's fine. But you shouldn't expect everybody to goosestep to your drummer.

The above information addresses how electricity (manmade electricity) is relatively new. We're bioelectrical organisms, so how has the proliferation of electricity around the world affected us? Nobody knows for sure, because corporations have given us "answers" that lead to profit. The unprofitable has been left in the dustbin of history.

But what happens when a cell is threatened by a powerful electrical field? How does it respond? Dr. Firstenberg says that if the attack is overwhelming enough then the cell breaks down and secretes toxins in the form of genetic material. This material gets into other cells and replicates. And this happens to lots of (but not all) the people in the affected area (broadcast range). Because of this spontaneous appearance in so many, we assume that something is being spread contagiously. But it's not. The same "viruses" appear in large clusters of people because large areas are experiencing the same electrical bombardment.

I know this has the smell of flat-earth / manmade climate change about it, and I have no way to know whether there's any truth to it. But it IS an elegant explanation of "viral" illness. Much simpler than the "bat soup in the fish market" lies we're always fed. AIDS came from Africans having sex with green monkeys. And now we're going to be hit with hantavirus because those Chinese are at it again, biting the heads off of live rats. Give me a break.

I found this article tonight, some selections from Dr. Firstenberg's book:

Coronavirus, Spanish flu, Influenza, Marconi, Tesla, Radio and Electrification

The 1918 flu was not caused by a virus.

The 1918 flu was not contagious and did not spread by direct human-to-human contact.

The 1918 flu began on U.S. military bases where soldiers were being trained in wireless telegraphy. It spread throughout the world on ten thousand U.S. Navy ships equipped with state-of-the-art wireless stations. It became much more deadly in September 1918 when the first round-the-clock voice radio station powerful enough to be received in most parts of the world went on the air in New Brunswick, New Jersey in service of the U.S. war effort, thereby launching the modern era of radio communication.

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Efforts by doctors working for the U.S. Public Health Service to prove the contagious nature of the 1918 flu were heroic and resulted in resounding and repeated failure. In November and December 1918 and in February and March 1919, they attempted to infect one hundred healthy volunteers with influenza in the following ways:

 They put secretions from the mouth, nose, throat and bronchi from hospitalized influenza patients into the nose, throat and eyes of volunteers;
 They injected blood from sick patients into volunteers;
 They filtered mucous material from sick ptients and injected it under the skin of volunteers;
 They had volunteers shake hands with sick patients, talk to them, faces close together, for five minutes, then had the patient breathe out as hard as he could while the volunteer, two inches away, was breathing in, then had the patient cough directly into the face of the volunteer, five times.

None of the volunteers in any of these experiments got sick in any way.

reddit.com/r/Jesuitworldorder/comments/ ... oni_tesla/

I'm just saying that this information is new to me, and interesting. I don't necessarily believe it, but neither do I believe the bullshit coming out of the World Health Organization or the CDC at the moment. Their shifting numbers have created an opportunity for governments to expand police state powers. THAT is something that can be proven. The Wuhan pandemic may not have been created for the purpose of stealing our rights, but that's what it's being used for.

Dr. Anthony Fauci Plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with Bill Gates Before Pushing COVID Panic and Doubts About Hydroxychloroquine Treatments
bigleaguepolitics.com/dr-anthony-fauci- ... reatments/

CBS Airs Sobbing Nurse Claiming There Aren’t Enough Masks – It Was BS
CBS news aired this deranged woman, and added emotive music to the sound track. Everything she said was a lie. Just the network's run of the mill fear mongering.
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Why hasn't the world been constantly under attack by deadly viruses ever since electrification? Why has electricity had such a pronounced effect on humans but not, apparently, on other animals? A true questioning mind wouldn't fail to ask.



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So you don't have a questioning mind. That's fine. But you shouldn't expect everybody to goosestep to your drummer.


That's a paradoxical assessment. I do question everything, including everything you write. Why don't you question the things you read and regurgitate here?

Regarding electricity and viruses, you're so out of your depth that it's comical.

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It's only elegant to someone who doesn't have a rudimentary understanding of how things work. I'm sorry for being arrogant, but you're truly clueless KS.


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