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I'm sitting down with a cup of coffee to read this entire thread and see what all the fuss is about...



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I'm still reading but I want to add a quick comment here. Alex Jones would be banned from BookTalk.org too.



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So when did Alex Jones say that nobody died at the Sandy Hook school shooting?

Alex stated that event was a hoax many times, that staging and actors were involved, i.e. nobody died. But he went far beyond that, even helping people harass the parents of those victims. Alex Jones now blames those beliefs on a form a psychosis.
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Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones blamed the various claims he’s made over the years, including that the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre was a hoax, on “psychosis,” according to a deposition the “Infowars” host has given as part of a Texas lawsuit. Jones described his conspiracy thinking as a kind of mental disorder during the deposition taken earlier this month for the lawsuit filed against him by the family of a 6-year-old who was among the 20 children and six adults killed in the Newtown, Connecticut, attack, the Austin American-Statesman reported.

Jones said during the deposition that he “almost had like a form of psychosis back in the past where I basically thought everything was staged, even though I’m now learning a lot of times things aren’t staged.” Jones blamed his mental state on “the trauma of the media and the corporations lying so much, then everything begins — you don’t trust anything anymore, kind of like a child whose parents lie to them over and over again, well, pretty soon they don’t know what reality is.”

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Alex Jones admits to having a mental disorder where you don't know what reality is. <= Yes please, let's keep using him as a credible source.



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DWill wrote:
Your chart is badly outdated. It also is more meaningful to look at independent ratings of media bias or polls in which respondents rate the bias of news sources.
Pew seems like a good source, but if they based it on perceptions, it has weaknesses. I was amused by placement of the Economist on the left, with the Washington Post. I'm sure in general Americans don't know what to make of the Economist, with its appreciation for the National Health Service and of regulation of business, not to mention its insistence that global warming is real and science is worth listening to, or its insistence on denouncing human rights violations, but it is far, far from liberal. It is what the Wall Street Journal once aspired to be, before signing on Arthur Laffer and the ideological support of Republican policy in the late 70s.

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All of that was "crazy conspiracy talk" when Alex Jones reported on it in real time, but now it seems that the truth about the Bidens' lurid past is about to go mainstream. Even NPR is starting to report on Creepy Joe and his boy.
One of the reasons I think government censorship should be avoided like the plague is that even Alex Jones can play a role in bringing out stories that others shy away from. I am on the mailing list of a left-wing news aggregation source that sometimes veers into extremism and bizarre paranoia, and I refuse to send them any money. But they also catch onto important stories before others do, at times, because they seek out the trouble spots.



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State Supreme Court to hear InfoWars appeal in Sandy Hook case
...“This is extremely good news for all who care about freedom of expression,” Pattis said. “One may disagree with Mr. Jones, in which case the remedy is not to listen to him. Silencing speech is never a good idea. While we owe sympathy to the Sandy Hook parents, their grief does not entitle them to become censors.”...
ctpost.com/local/article/State-Supreme- ... 086011.php

The Connecticut Supreme Court is taking over the Alex Jones / Sandy Hook case. That almost never happens, but the lower courts are futzing around with the First Amendment and freedom of speech here. Cases have an almost guaranteed path to the US Supreme Court once they come out of a state's supreme court, so eventually the landmark case reaffirming freedom of speech in America may have Alex Jones' name on it. Excellent.

Meanwhile, in Britain last week, they locked up a man whose crime was "contempt of court." Tommy Robinson. He reported on a "grooming" trial of Pakistani Muslims. They were grooming British girls to become child sex slaves, and Robinson reported on the case. He was cautioned by the court not to do it again (the British have no Bill of Rights that protects freedom of speech), so when he did it again he was cited for contempt. Then they locked him up, which is unprecedented. Contempt charges have always been dealt with through fines. Nobody can find a record of an actual incarceration for the offense. The British government is intent on surrendering Britain to Islam. Robinson's an impediment to that goal, so he was sent to prison, where he will likely be killed by the majority Muslim population. On the bright side, his case has opened a lot of eyes.

Far-Right Activist Tommy Robinson Jailed for Nine Months at Old Bailey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERmH0AL0yU

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These assaults against freedom of speech are intended to bring down western civilization. The American Bill of Rights in particular is problematic for the tyrannical-minded globalists. The Bill of Rights reminds us that we are born with unlimited rights, which government cannot take away except through due process, and it then enumerates some of the rights we have. First listed is freedom of thought (speech, worship, assembly and so on). Also, we are reminded that our rights are God-given. So that's one of the reasons why we've seen such an assault on religion; God must be removed from America's thinking so that we will no longer fully appreciate our governing documents.

At any rate, there was good news on the Jones case this week, and Britain was galvanized by the Robinson injustice.

A video that Alex Jones recently featured on his show:
The END GAME: WHY the WEST is LOST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPembXZMKv0


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State Supreme Court to hear InfoWars appeal in Sandy Hook case
...“This is extremely good news for all who care about freedom of expression,” Pattis said. “One may disagree with Mr. Jones, in which case the remedy is not to listen to him. Silencing speech is never a good idea. While we owe sympathy to the Sandy Hook parents, their grief does not entitle them to become censors.”...
ctpost.com/local/article/State-Supreme- ... 086011.php

The Connecticut Supreme Court is taking over the Alex Jones / Sandy Hook case. That almost never happens, but the lower courts are futzing around with the First Amendment and freedom of speech here. Cases have an almost guaranteed path to the US Supreme Court once they come out of a state's supreme court, so eventually the landmark case reaffirming freedom of speech in America may have Alex Jones' name on it. Excellent.
In his attempt to earn back his right of appeal, Jones will need to defend somehow these words about the lawyer of the plaintiffs' law firm: "What a good boy. You think you’ll put on me, what ... I’m gonna kill ... Anyway, I’m done! Total war! You want it, you got it!” If he succeeds in spinning such language and wins, he then still needs to convince a different judge to dismiss the lawsuit because he did not defame the children and parents at Sandy Hook. That's gonna be a very difficult one, with the whole thing relying on Jones' sincerity that he was suffering from mental illness when he believed Sandy Hook was staged and crusaded against the families. Therefore he wasn't responsible. If that defense should be accepted, which I strongly doubt, Jones would surely be required to shut down his entire operation as part of his treatment for his illness. Jones is facing financial ruin from this lawsuit, so it's understandable that he desperately needs to fight it off.
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A video that Alex Jones recently featured on his show:
The END GAME: WHY the WEST is LOST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPembXZMKv0

"Genetic fallacy" pertains to much of the video. It's fallacious to claim that current conditions are the fault of their supposed parents far back in time. The fallacy is made clearer in this case by the fact that the author's view of liberalism through the great part of its existence is quite positive. In fact, he says Western Civilization couldn't have been born without liberalism. So how is it possible that we had to wait so long to see liberalism's evil spawn? It's the "contains within it the seeds of its own destruction" idea--just a variation of the genetic fallacy.



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