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Post Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
Apparently Neil deGrasse Tyson had been doing this for years.. much like that renowned pervert Richard Feynman.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/ ... ley-watson



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
Rather sad. Evidently a person can be a genius and a boor at the same time. Sometimes worse than just a boor.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... te/573844/

Of course, there is no particular reason to associate the behavior with the atheism. We have many examples of religious leaders, Catholic, Protestant and otherwise, guilty of similar behavior. It isn't even limited to men. A good discussion with a shrink could help many of them.



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Of course, there is no particular reason to associate the behavior with the atheism.


No, of course not. That was not my intent. But Tyson has been known to flaunt his atheism as if it were some sort of badge of high esteem. Also, some atheists often do associate atheism with higher degrees of morality than that of people who believe in "sky fairies" and spaghetti monsters.


Never knew that about Krauss. Thanks for sharing that article.



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
But it was my impression that Tyson doesn't flaunt atheism as morally superior, vs. someone like Richard Dawkins. I could be wrong on that.



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
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But it was my impression that Tyson doesn't flaunt atheism as morally superior, vs. someone like Richard Dawkins. I could be wrong on that.


That may be true in the sense that he's not as slutty about it as someone like Dawkins



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
Here is Neil's statement on the situation.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/neil-deg ... 826326613/



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
So he admits he told one of the accusers that if he hugged her he "might want more"

And the guy has been married since 1988.

He's a slut.



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
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So Tyson drugged and raped a woman 8 years ago and we know this because the woman said so. After her accusation 2 other women are accusing Tyson of sexual harassment.

Obviously we should have Tchiya Amet testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.


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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
ant wrote:
Apparently Neil deGrasse Tyson had been doing this for years.. much like that renowned pervert Richard Feynman.


https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/12/ ... ley-watson


I'll see your atheist "rational" scientists and raise you...


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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
There's a certain amount of glee in the Progressive Christian community about how poorly the evangelicals have done in dealing with abusive male leaders. Of course, progressives include a fair number of abusive leaders as well. No group seems to be immune. The dynamics of interaction with self-absorption and ego are worth some serious study, in this age of mass communication and celebrity.

For instance, if dominating others is an addiction, as it seems to have been for Harvey Weinstein, what are we learning about enablers and the role of money in shaping them to be that? And if that's what idol-worship looks like, what does that tell us about worship in general, and therefore the true God in particular?



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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
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For instance, if dominating others is an addiction, as it seems to have been for Harvey Weinstein, what are we learning about enablers and the role of money in shaping them to be that? And if that's what idol-worship looks like, what does that tell us about worship in general, and therefore the true God in particular?


Let's begin with an easier question.

What does that tell us about the cult of the best president this country has ever had? They say that again and again the in Fox News comments section and they mean it. Seriously.


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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
I don't give a fuck what any man does to any woman until Donald Trump is investigated for the accusations against him. He has WAY more women accusing him than Tyson or anybody does. If Trump is allowed to get away, then they should all be allowed to get away.



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I don't give a fuck what any man does to any woman until Donald Trump is investigated for the accusations against him. He has WAY more women accusing him than Tyson or anybody does. If Trump is allowed to get away, then they should all be allowed to get away.


That's what the Trumpettes say every time someone knocks their idol. "Well Hillary, blah blah blah, emails, blah blah Benghazi, blah blah Uranium 1. Then they start on Obama.


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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
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I don't give a fuck what any man does to any woman until Donald Trump is investigated for the accusations against him. He has WAY more women accusing him than Tyson or anybody does. If Trump is allowed to get away, then they should all be allowed to get away.

Well, not really, right? That would be like saying, since OJ got away with murder, then anyone should get a free pass to murder anyone without consequences. Just because Trump's minions are willing to to overlook the Donald's moral depravity doesn't mean that the rest of us should toss out our moral and ethical codes of conduct. We don't allow idiots to set the standards for intelligence.

Though I get your anger. I like to think this Donald infatuation is a passing phase. In the end, principles matter.


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Post Re: Another atheist, "rational" scientist accused of sexual misconduct.
I'm sure DB Roy is just frustrated with Trump evading accountability and doesn't actually want every other scum bag to be just as fortunate.



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