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Ant may have a point. There was no such outrage when the Obama administration used tear gas at the border. On the other hand, there are some important differences. Trump has heavily politicized illegal immigration. He has promoted a dark anti-immigrant message to stir up his xenophobic base, while Obama kept a low profile about it--even while working to keep a strong border.

And then there's another important distinction: Obama apparently never used tear gas on children. We didn't see photos of women and children fleeing through tear gas smoke with fear in their eyes.

And there's a good example of why Trump's blunt force trauma approach to policy sometimes brings about bad press. Instead of thoughtfully finding solutions to problems, Trump builds tent cities and loudly sends 5,000 troops to the border just before midterms. Such differences in style between the two administrations is fairly striking. You reap what you sow.


Why are you seemingly labeling his entire base xenophobic? I know several Trump supporters that care only about immigration LAWS being enforced, and nothing else. The laws are codified. Any sovereign nation in the entire WORLD has the right to protect its borders and enforce its laws.

But you introduce a good point: Trump has heavily politicized the immigration issue. It can't go under the radar like it did for Obama's entire 8 year campaign when he was referred to as The Deporter in Chief by immigration activist groups. The ACLU, much to their credit hounded him periodically for humanitarian violations. Where were all our fashionable political activists then? Where were the nation wide protests? Where was the social media outrage?

With Obama it was keeping a "strong" border presence, that included, as you read, tear gas and rubber bullets.

With Trump its something much more evil and sinister, despite his methods being nearly identical to Obama's

Whatever the differences in styles between the two, the treatment of immigrants at the border was and IS the same.



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No, but the tear gas and rubber bullets shot at immigrants during his campaign were intentional.. or are you going to claim otherwise?



This is so blatantly weak of you. It's obvious your humanitarian concern for south of the border immigrants has come about only because political activism is now fashionable.

The moment "your guy" whomever that may be, is back in the Oval Office, people like you will go back to looking the other way, with your mouth's shut.

You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.


Your anger towards me blinds you ant. Go searching for where I've made any humanitarian criticisms against either Obama or Trump regarding the border. I believe in a strong border. I also believe Trump is a moron. The two beliefs aren't related.

Your hypocrisy is on full display in this thread, not mine. You blame Obama for what's going on at the border right now... This is projection at its finest.


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Your anger towards me blinds you ant


I'm not angry at you.. I'm simply fully aware of your brutish hypocrisy.
People like you need to be confronted about it.



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