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At Trump's press conference after the election results, he asked the reporters at one point, "Can I be honest with you?" Of course, he meant "May I be honest with you?" May I means that you have the ability to be honest and that you are asking permission to drop a little honesty on them. Can I means you are asking, "Do I have the ability to be honest with you?" No, Donald, you CAN'T!!



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Trump has been acting even weirder than he usually does lately. In France, he was a bizarre, hot, little mess. He sulked by himself and wouldn't join other leaders for a walk to the Arc de Triomphe. He wouldn't show at a cemetery to commemorate the dead of WW1. He said it was rain when there was, in fact, no rain. Then he blamed French security of keeping him from his appointments. But it seemed to me this was more than just him being an asshole to the European leaders even though he is. Something personal seemed to be eating him. It was strange how sulky he was. The media attributed this sulkiness to the midterm losses and the upcoming Mueller report. White House aides said Trump walks around the White House biting people's heads off who get in his way. Besides firing Sessions, he's reportedly already in the process of the getting rid of Kirstjen Neilson. Sarah Sanders will leave at the end of the year and Trump is apparently ready to jettison Kelly.

And while Mr. You're Fired is too cowardly to fire any of these people to their faces, Melania showed no such difficulties when she ousted Mira Ricardel, Deputy National Security Advisor. This is utterly bizarre. There is talk that Ricardel is always stepping on the toes of HOTUS's staff and seemingly taking shots at HOTUS herself. But that doesn't seem like something that would cause Melania to erupt in rage and dismiss her. It seems to me that something else is going on.

When I couple the unusually sulky Donny with the unusually enraged Melania, it seems to me that Ricardel is more than an annoying staffer to Mrs. Trump. It seems to me, Melania found out this woman has slept with her husband. That would seem to explain everything now, wouldn't it? Donald's inexplicable retreating from the world when we normally can't get 30 seconds of relief from him thrusting himself into the spotlight saying the most outrageous things he can come up with in order to keep making the headlines because he so craves the attention. Melania's usual very quiet, even reclusive behavior--even when her husband's affairs with Stormy Daniels and Karen MacDougall came to light. Now she's in the spotlight making a scene. It's as though the two switched bodies.

What caused this all the sudden? The midterms? Not hardly. No, something personal has happened and Melania is now enraged and Trump is shrinking from her sight--and as a consequence--the public's sight. When men deeply displease their wives, they tend to get out of sight quickly and stay that way for a while. Trump is certainly acting like that. Meanwhile, his wife suddenly goes very publicly on the warpath--now something happened between the two of them and it wasn't pretty--and it involved Mira Ricardel. Melania has thrown her out but I doubt she is done. Imagine your wife catches you in bed with another woman, freaks out, beats up the woman and throws her out by her hair. But that was just the preliminary. NOW she turns to you--her face like a grimacing Death's Head with fiercely glowing eyes!! I think that's where we are in this drama. She is now turning to cheating Donny and all hell is about to break loose.

I could be wrong but it certainly looks like something really BAD just happened between the two of them--really BAD!



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Intriguing assessment of the potential dynamics in the White House, DB Roy. Overall I have a sense of humiliation with Trump as our leader. Hardly a day goes by where he doesn't say or do something that makes me want to hide my face in humiliation at being under his leadership.

One thing that bothers be so much is that I have many friends that support Trump (most don't) and I cannot voice my opinion about Trump and his decisions and behavior without causing serious tension with these friends. On Facebook, back when Trump was running for office and then immediately after he took office, I would periodically called into question Trump's actions and several people let me know that I am "driving a wedge" between myself and my Trump supporting friends. Jesus. Why can't we talk about this stuff without everyone taking it personally? Why is this stuff taboo to discuss?



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Mebbe the Donald tried that approach with Melania. You know, "Why can't we just discuss these things, like adults? Without getting all upset. First off, I never even looked at her. I never noticed she was hot. Second, can I help it if she goes around saying, 'Best sex I ever had'? Some people just exaggerate."



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Why can't we talk about this stuff without everyone taking it personally? Why is this stuff taboo to discuss?


To disagree, question, or attack a person's politics is the equivalent of attacking their very identity. Much like religion.
That's what happens when politics replaces religion. And that is precisely what is happening in America.



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Why can't we talk about this stuff without everyone taking it personally? Why is this stuff taboo to discuss?


To disagree, question, or attack a person's politics is the equivalent of attacking their very identity. Much like religion.
That's what happens when politics replaces religion. And that is precisely what is happening in America.


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I'll bet after 2020, when Donny is gone, we're going to hear from Secret Service people about all the YUGE fights Trump and Melania had night after night.



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Intriguing assessment of the potential dynamics in the White House, DB Roy. Overall I have a sense of humiliation with Trump as our leader. Hardly a day goes by where he doesn't say or do something that makes me want to hide my face in humiliation at being under his leadership.


What? You mean, you DON'T believe that democratic voters were voting then going into the parking lot and putting on different clothes and then going back in and voting again???



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Well, I doubt people would change clothes and go back into the same polling location. But I can see some people attempting to vote at different locations. Then again I am shocked regularly with all things political.



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Well, I doubt people would change clothes and go back into the same polling location. But I can see some people attempting to vote at different locations. Then again I am shocked regularly with all things political.

I don't doubt it happens sometimes, but in most polling locations, you have to sign in when you go to vote. At that point, they check your name to show that you've already voted. You can't come back later and vote again because you have already been flagged. This actually happened to me once when I was living in Florida a few years back. I signed in and then saw the huge line and left. When I came back later to vote, they wouldn't let me because my name had already been checked off. I was rather miffed about it at the time, but I see now that it's a simple precaution that probably works well.


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I'll bet after 2020, when Donny is gone, we're going to hear from Secret Service people about all the YUGE fights Trump and Melania had night after night.
I suspect she never raises her voice.

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Dana Milbank of the Washington Post pens some of the wickedest stabs at Donald Trump, and there are some laugh-out-loud parts in his column on Trump's unhappy visit to France.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 3f754d29cd



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Where do I begin?

I suppose I should start off by saying the Trump regime is crumbling. It has begun. As of now, there are seven different investigations into Trump's doings by the Special Counsel:

1. The Russian Government’s Election Attack
2. WikiLeaks
3. Middle Eastern Influence
4. Paul Manafort’s Activity
5. The Trump Tower Moscow Project
6. Other Campaign and Transition Contacts With Russia
7. Obstruction of Justice

Four investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York:

8. Campaign Conspiracy and the Trump Organization’s Finances
9. Inauguration Funding
10. Trump SuperPAC Funding
11. Foreign Lobbying

One investigation by the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia:

12. Maria Butina and the NRA

Two investigations by the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia:

13. Elena Alekseevna Khusyaynova
14. Turkish Influence

And three investigations by New York City, New York State, & Other State Attorneys General:

15. Tax Case involving $400 million
16. The Trump Foundation
17. Emoluments Lawsuit

This is deep shit, people! It's totally preposterous to believe Trump knew about NONE of this. It's preposterous to think that meetings with Russian agents were going on in Trump Tower without him knowing--control freak that he is. Trump will need a team of very expensive lawyers--way more than 17--to navigate through this quagmire. Where is he going to find them? He can't even find anyone who wants to be the chief-of-staff and the guy he eventually settled on has previously admitted that he thinks Trump is a despicable human being!

The Trump Foundation has been dissolved while Trump and his three eldest children are still under investigation. The dissolution is not the end of it, the lawsuit still moves forward. Meanwhile, none of them will be allowed to sit on the boards of any more non-profits in New York. People should understand that it is virtually impossible for Trump to run this legal gauntlet and not get tagged good and hard at least a couple of times. Teflon Don is done.

Michael Cohen has been sentenced to prison, Michael Flynn could have avoided it but at the last minute decided to yank the judge's chain and brought down his wrath. While Mueller recommended no jail time for Flynn, that was not binding upon the court which is now strongly considering charging Flynn with treason and stuffing his ass in a cage and throwing away the key. His sentencing has been postponed until next year. This has really upset the Qanon and 4/8 Chan conspiracists who were convinced that U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan was going to go soft on Flynn because they were all secretly in cahoots to bust-up the international child porn ring run by the democratic party. Why is this damned judge veering off-script?? Must have been the Clintons and the Obamas bought him off!!

Meanwhile Trump has lost Anne Coulter and her nutball clones for reneging on two promises: 1. to build a wall, and 2. to lock up Hillary Clinton. Trump is learning the hard way that however it works in business, in politics, the promise once being made has to be kept. Sure you can renege but only at the peril of your career. Trump was good at making these promises but had no idea how to keep them. Chalk this up to his inexperience in politics and it doesn't matter--once you toss your hat into the ring, you're telling everybody you are ready to take charge. There are no excuses. Don't make promises you can't keep. It's no one's fault but yours when you think you're going to do something when you don't know the first thing about how to get started much less how to get it done. Blaming others for your incompetence only proves how abysmally incompetent you really are. That's why you have to hire experienced advisors and you have to listen to them.

I expect, at this point, Trump must resign. When? Sometime next year when the new congress is sworn in. In the meantime, I expect an indictment will come down for Donny, Jr. That's as far as I'm predicting now and we'll see what happens.



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Nice summary. With all of these investigations to fend off, his usual deflectors--Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Robert Muller, et al--won't give him the same mileage. He deflects to Clinton on the matter of his charitable foundation (which must have the worst-ever rating from Charity Navigator), asking why her and Bill's foundation is not being investigated. But guess what, you won the election, Donald, that's why yours is in the crosshairs. Had Clinton won, there would have been inquiries about the Clinton Foundation, of course the emails, Uranium One, and other stuff. But it's safe to say that the list would have been a lot shorter than Trump's, and--call me biased--would have contained a lot less substance.

He can't resign, though. If he has less than five years in office, he can be indicted for the campaign finance charge that gave Cohen part of his sentence. Also, Trump's brand would be forever trashed if he quit, and he can't let that happen. I expect him to run for re-election, because even if impeached it's a very slight chance that the Senate will convict and remove him.



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Nice summary. With all of these investigations to fend off, his usual deflectors--Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Robert Muller, et al--won't give him the same mileage. He deflects to Clinton on the matter of his charitable foundation (which must have the worst-ever rating from Charity Navigator),


You sure about that? According to Wiki: "In March, 2015, the charity watchdog group Charity Navigator added the Clinton Foundation to a watch list (a designation meant to warn donors that questions have been raised about an entity's practices), after several news organizations raised questions over donations from corporations and foreign governments. It removed the foundation from its watch list in late December of that year.[74] In September 2016, it gave it its highest possible rating, four out of four stars, after its customary review of the Foundation's financial records and tax statements.[75] A different charity monitor, CharityWatch, said that 88% of the foundation's money goes toward its charitable mission and gave the foundation an A rating for 2016. In 2015, based on revenue of $223 million and an expense ratio of 12% the foundation spent in excess of $26 million to complete its mission.[76]"

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asking why her and Bill's foundation is not being investigated. But guess what, you won the election, Donald, that's why yours is in the crosshairs. Had Clinton won, there would have been inquiries about the Clinton Foundation, of course the emails, Uranium One, and other stuff. But it's safe to say that the list would have been a lot shorter than Trump's, and--call me biased--would have contained a lot less substance.


Trump has an amazing capacity for hypocrisy. He can taunt you and cut you down publicly for engaging a practice that he is engaging in himself even as he's attack you over it. He's not alone in that regard but I doubt anyone else does it to the degree he does and with the same aplomb.

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He can't resign, though. If he has less than five years in office, he can be indicted for the campaign finance charge that gave Cohen part of his sentence. Also, Trump's brand would be forever trashed if he quit, and he can't let that happen. I expect him to run for re-election, because even if impeached it's a very slight chance that the Senate will convict and remove him.


He may have no other choice. Suppose he is found guilty of tax evasion. The govt could threaten to seize Trump Tower and/or Maralago unless he resigns. Suppose he is found guilty of conspiracy to defraud the govt, that his entire presidency is unconstitutional, he might resign if they threaten to strike his name from the presidency, to annul it. There is no rule allowing this but there is no rule against it either. It's not likely to happen, of course, but if he is threatened with it or offered the chance to resign, who knows? I wouldn't bank on the latter scenario but seizing his tower and the winter kremlin might just work. Trump is--above all else--a very greedy man. His greed is without top or bottom. Taking away the signs of his wealth, his financial success, might be the blow he could not withstand. I don't think he holds the presidency above his greed or he would have gladly divested himself of his businesses in order to be president. Instead, the presidency is just one more part of greedy fantasy that this stupid, idiotic country allowed him to have even though we knew how disastrously crazy it was to hand it to him.



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