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Whiny Alinskyites. Y'all aren't even good at using his attack techniques.

Lack of self awareness is the goal of some pretty noble religions and belief systems. If I wanted to get into psychology (or is it phrenology? Same thing), I could say that some of you are such intense narcissists that you place an inordinate value on awareness of self. Which would mean you don't give a damn about others.

What I've learned since I grew up is that socialist-minded people are either stupid or conniving. You either want to steal people's wealth, or you're too dumb to realize that your aiding in the crime. Socialism is a sham. Capitalism is a perpetual motion machine, socialism is a gas guzzler. And lately I've seen people driving their heads farther and farther up their backsides on the subject of socialism. But I guess they're as likely to find validation of their misbeliefs there as they are anywhere.

And now the New York Times has you zombies turning your attention to Trump's taxes. Last week the paper had you believing the mewls of brainwashed liar Christine Blasey Ford, and now its on to the next farce.

I might start a thread on Ford, as a way into the subject of trauma-based mind control. I may build my next piece of fiction around the subject, so I've been doing research on it, and MAN did Ford demonstrate the traits of a mind control slave while giving her testimony. The inhibited little girl's voice, the 'pretty face,' the constant looking at Dianne Feinstein for validation...that's one of the creepiest public displays of brainwashing I've ever seen.


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This is so on target:

Incivility on the Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZDAibtPDQ

Hillary Clinton has threatened us. She said there will be no civility unless her Leftists win one of the houses of congress in the upcoming election.

Clinton no doubt used the word 'incivility' as a way to conjure up images of bloodshed. In America, when you hear the word 'civil,' your mind usually follows it with 'war.' 'Civil' is an uncommon word in everyday use, and when we hear it, it's normally in reference to the war. So Clinton is agitating. And she's threatening violence, just like LOADS of her co-seditionists are also doing at the moment. Since her people are currently locked out of elected majorities, all they can do is threaten violence.

Her use of 'incivility' reminds me of GW Bush thumping the hornet's nest in the Middle East once with the use of the word 'crusade.' I believe he used it 7-8 times in a short speech. It was intended to provoke.

As was his use of 'shock and awe.' He drops the D when he says 'and,' so in his first major speech promoting shock and awe he kept saying 'shock an awe.' Sounds like the Hebrew word shekhina. That wasn't lost on Arabs in the ME.

Anyway, they're saying that Clinton may actually run for president again. Posters are already popping up:

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What I've learned since I grew up is that socialist-minded people are either stupid or conniving. You either want to steal people's wealth, or you're too dumb to realize that your aiding in the crime. Socialism is a sham. Capitalism is a perpetual motion machine, socialism is a gas guzzler. And lately I've seen people driving their heads farther and farther up their backsides on the subject of socialism. But I guess they're as likely to find validation of their misbeliefs there as they are anywhere.


I don't know how you're choosing to define "socialism", but when I look around your country and conduct a little research, I can easily see thousands of examples of efficient and productive socialist activity, that is, government or cooperative run enterprises.

For starters, there are more than two thousand publicly owned electric utilities now operating throughout the United States (many in the conservative South).
In smaller communities revenues from public utilities are often a crucial component of city budgets. In Ashland, Oregon, for instance, fully 30 percent of the general fund that pays for such services as police, fire, and street maintenance comes from public utility profits. This doesn't sound like criminality or stupidity to me.

In Miami, Florida Miami-Dade Transit is involved in the ownership of multiple large transit-linked joint development ventures. Dadeland South Station, for instance, includes multiple office buildings, a luxury hotel, and ground-level retail space. Dadeland North Station comprises more than 370,000 square feet of retail space, a large residential rental building, and a luxury apartment building. Taken together the projects generate annual revenues of around $1.3 million for Miami-Dade County.

The San Francisco Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) has eighteen transit-oriented development projects under way (and numerous others in various stages of development). In the nation’s capital, the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority has established more than fifty revenue-generating joint development projects. The Valley Transportation Authority of Santa Clara County, California, has designed its Transit-Oriented Development Program to encourage mixed-use development within two thousand feet of transit stops. Not only does its Almaden Lake Village Project return revenues to the city, but 20 percent of the 250 residential units are offered at below-market cost to low-income households.

More than 130 cities have built citywide public Internet networks (as of 2013). Hundreds have partial networks (connecting schools, businesses, and government buildings), and hundreds more are actively planning the construction of such networks.
Many cities are involved in hotel construction and ownership—and making profits on these efforts. City-owned hotels can be found in communities as different as Austin, Houston, Chicago, Omaha, Overland Park (Kansas), Sacramento, Marietta (Georgia), Oceanside (California), Myrtle Beach (South Carolina), Denver, Phoenix, and Vancouver, Washington (near Portland, Oregon).

To take just one example from a seemingly conservative area: In May 2008, the Dallas City Council, led by mayor Tom Leppert, voted by an 11–2 margin to pursue construction and operation of a publicly owned convention center hotel. In November 2011 the city celebrated the grand opening of its convention-oriented city-owned $500 million, 1.2-million-square-foot, twenty-three-story, 1,001-room hotel.

Cities are also involved in one or another form of hospital ownership, with a survey (2010) finding that roughly one-fifth of hospitals in the United States are publicly owned. One of the most interesting is Denver Health. Once an insolvent city agency ($39 million in debt in 1992), Denver Health is now a competitive health care system structured as an innovative blend of democratized ownership and direct municipal accountability. As a quasi-governmental agency it now has relative autonomy over decisions, yet it is subject to the state’s open-meetings law (allowing for public involvement) and has a board that is appointed by the city’s mayor.

Denver Health operates a highly efficient system that includes eight primary care centers and thirteen school-based clinics. An award-winning leader in its field, and consistently profitable for more than two decades, it employs roughly fifty-six hundred Denver-area residents and treats more than a third of Denver’s population, including a full 37 percent of the city’s children. About 65 percent of the patients are ethnic minorities, and more than 40 percent are uninsured.

In California, CalPERS (the state pension fund, now in operation for eighty years) oversees $237 billion in investments. Not only is CalPERS one of the largest investors in the state of California, it has taken a lead in directing a share of its investments to community-building efforts in the state (rather than handing over all state pension asset investments to Wall Street and other financial advisers and investment firms). (We’re not talking small potatoes here: Such state investments totaled $23.5 billion as of September 2012.

In Alabama the public pension system—Retirement Systems of Alabama (RSA)—invests in numerous local Alabama industries, in many cases also helping create worker-owned firms. Investments range from aerospace to tourism development and include, among others, Navistar International—a firm that paid its engine manufacturing plant employees to work in the community rather than lay them off when the recession caused a drop in production.

Roughly two-fifths of the states (38 percent) also actively provide aid to worker-owned companies. Several directly support ESOPs (and/or worker cooperatives) with initiatives ranging from the linked deposit/investment programs in Indiana to education, technical assistance, and training programs in many states. Two states—Vermont and Ohio—support employee ownership centers that in turn leverage public funds to offer a variety of services to ESOPs and worker cooperatives.

By the way, almost half the states—twenty-three—in “capitalist” America also directly invest public funds in promising start-up companies. In Maryland, to take just one example, the Enterprise Investment Fund regularly invests in start-ups in exchange for equity and a guarantee from the firm that it will continue to operate in the state for at least five years. The fund has performed exceptionally well: Between 1994 and 2011 the state made total returns of $62.5 million on its investments.

And one final example from KindaS's own state of Texas: The Texas Permanent School Fund was established more than 150 years ago with $2 million from the state’s general fund. In 1876 roughly half of all the land (and associated mineral rights) in the state still in the public domain was added to the fund, and beginning in 1953 coastal “submerged lands” were also added after being relinquished by the federal government. The state-owned fund currently (2011) owns 626,000 acres of surface land and 12 million acres of mineral land and submerged land.
Every year a distribution is made from the profits of the publicly owned (“socialized”) fund to defray education costs for every county in the state—roughly $2 billion in the last two years 2011-2012). The fund also guarantees bonds for local school districts, enabling them to pay significantly lower interest rates on their debt.

Details on these and many more examples can be found at:

truthout.org/articles/everyday-socialism-american-style-is-happening-now/

or the book What Then Must We Do? Straight Talk About the Next American Revolution, Ch 11.
and numerous web sites.



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Post Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump
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Lack of self awareness is the goal of some pretty noble religions and belief systems. If I wanted to get into psychology (or is it phrenology? Same thing), I could say that some of you are such intense narcissists that you place an inordinate value on awareness of self. Which would mean you don't give a damn about others.


Having good self-awareness is bad thing and comes from narcissism? That's like saying having a flashlight creates darkness because you can't have dark without light. Logic with such a clever twist into stupidity that an almost-there mind falls for it.

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If you didn't already have a history of saying extremely stupid things, I'd swear you were pulling our legs.


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Just a small word of caution:

If we have future social(ist) justice warriors as stupid as Ocasio Cortez, we are likely in for more trouble.

Let's "pack the Supreme Court"



Seriously, is this generation of young adults who want change this stupid?

Unbelievable



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Let's "pack the Supreme Court"

Seriously, is this generation of young adults who want change this stupid?

Unbelievable


Such a mentality is hardly limited to the left or the young. McConnell demonstrated (I refer to the "advice and consent" on Merrick Garland, of course) that if the Republicans had temporary hold on the reins of power and thought they could [only] control the court with it, they would pack it in a minute.



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Y'all aren't even good at using his attack techniques.
What you completely fail to understand is that attack is not the point. Most of us here don't bother "attacking" you as you have no credibility to start with.

"Refuting" can be an interesting challenge. "Understanding" is the real challenge. I read books and news to understand the world, not to do battle. I think it is fair to say most of the other frequent contributors do the same. So when we see that you don't give a flying fig for understanding the world, we scratch our heads and wonder what makes you tick.
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Whiny Alinskyites.
I could say that some of you are such intense narcissists that you place an inordinate value on awareness of self. Which would mean you don't give a damn about others.
And now the New York Times has you zombies turning your attention to Trump's taxes.
I might start a thread on Ford, as a way into the subject of trauma-based mind control.
However, your attack does underline your purpose in posting here, which is to attack. I quote these sentences as a matter of documentation, but I don't think anyone who has been reading your stuff needs any convincing.

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What I've learned since I grew up is that socialist-minded people are either stupid or conniving. You either want to steal people's wealth, or you're too dumb to realize that your aiding in the crime.
Yes, people have been saying that supporting public schools and having progressive taxation is "socialism" for a long time. You are starting to make me think socialism must be a really good idea. I recently ran across a thumbnail sketch of Burlington, VT when Bernie Sanders was mayor, and how it turned around and became a brilliant source of humanitarian uplift and economic success. It left me with the same impression. Why should our quality of life not be as good as that of Sweden or Denmark? No good reason.



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Sweden is becoming a Muslim hellhole. What's wrong with you? Any money that the country may have accumulated through overtaxation will soon be gone, paid out to people who were invited in to destroy the culture.

This forum is largely Leftist. As such, folks support the destruction of western culture, suppression of free speech, pedophilic sexualization of children by "social justice warriors,"and so on. So of course I attack. What's to discuss in those areas? Leftists are just wrong. And they're fascistic. You can't debate fascists.

But at the same time I don't think that the Right has the answers. Except for nationalism. Pull back from the ChiCom world takeover of globalism, return to nation-states working amongst themselves for prosperity, and things are good.

But Leftists can't abide nationalism. It's a threat to their dreams of monolithic CONTROL. So the Trump of Brazil was just gutted (though he survived and will become President), and the commie French are trying to declare Marine Le Pen "insane" because she doesn't believe in communism (shades of Stalin). And now Faith Goldy (who's running for mayor of Toronto), is being denied advertising (completely illegal).

Leftism is about to die, and old-guard Leftists have to resort to thuggery, as they always do in a pinch.

Nationalism, borders, trade, free speech. Beat that if you can.


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KindaSkolarly recently cheered an article that advocated martial law, mass arrests, military tribunals, seizing control of mass media, disbanding the FBI, suspending elections, and much more. Compare that to the post above: KindaSkolarly has a severe lack of self awareness, projects his own thoughts onto others, then feigns disgust at his own opinions.
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Most of us here don't bother "attacking" you {KindaSkolarly} as you have no credibility to start with.

Indeed. Not worth spending much time on it, KindaSkolarly is out of conTROLL.


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This forum is largely Leftist. As such, folks support the destruction of western culture, suppression of free speech, pedophilic sexualization of children by "social justice warriors,"and so on.


Most people on Booktalk support pedophilic sexualization of children? The other two items are almost equally ridiculous.

How can you not see your words from our perspective? Not only are you wrong, but you come across as frothing and deranged.


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It was only a matter of when, not whether, Trump's cronies in Congress and his lamentable namesake son would smear Jamal Khashoggi. I was waiting for KS to weigh in on that, but maybe he has withdrawn from the fray.



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It was only a matter of when, not whether, Trump's cronies in Congress and his lamentable namesake son would smear Jamal Khashoggi. I was waiting for KS to weigh in on that, but maybe he has withdrawn from the fray.


Both side engage in smear campaigning.. always
It's essentially built into politics.



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It was only a matter of when, not whether, Trump's cronies in Congress and his lamentable namesake son would smear Jamal Khashoggi. I was waiting for KS to weigh in on that, but maybe he has withdrawn from the fray.


Both side engage in smear campaigning.. always
It's essentially built into politics.

But do you think equivalency should apply in this case, ant? It shouldn't, in my opinion. It didn't in Charlottesville when Trump tried to use it. The matter of degree is relevant. This smear crosses a line.



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It was only a matter of when, not whether, Trump's cronies in Congress and his lamentable namesake son would smear Jamal Khashoggi. I was waiting for KS to weigh in on that, but maybe he has withdrawn from the fray.


Both side engage in smear campaigning.. always
It's essentially built into politics.

But do you think equivalency should apply in this case, ant? It shouldn't, in my opinion. It didn't in Charlottesville when Trump tried to use it. The matter of degree is relevant. This smear crosses a line.


They all engage in it.. numerous wrongs simply don't justify any of this behavior from either side. Politics are totally dirty.
It's always been that way, but we seem to find it morally reprehensible when it's not "our guy" doing it.



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