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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
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Yes, the Second Amendment's emphasis was on the militias, not on private individuals, as many constitutional scholars have discussed over the years. Either way, there are different views on the subject. Though it's your opinion that the Second Amendment absolutely guarantees individual rights to own any gun, that's not the case in the real world.
You mean they might have left out the "militias" part if that was their intent? Not one of Scalia's most consistent moments as an originalist.

Indeed, the NRA's focus used to be on sportsmanship and hunting, but everything changed in the late 1970s when, under new leadership, the group became anti-government and all about the Second Amendment. In other words, the NRA became dogmatic and ideological. And today it's basically a political action committee, whose primary goal is to influence elections and legislation.

Today, at the NRA's headquarters in Fairfax, VA, a plague in the lobby reads: ".. the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” They left out the part about the militias so in keeping with the new narrative that the Second Amendment is all about the right of the individual. It wasn't and isn't. The deleted part says a lot about what the organization is all about today.


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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
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Clear evidence of how ill-informed the children being used as pawns are. This student thinks an AR-15 makes deer explode:

Gun advocates frequently resort to technicalities in order to distract. It does not matter that these folks just saw 17 of their friends gunned down. It does not matter that any jackwagon who uses a 30 shot capacity assault rifle to go deer hunting deserves to be ostracized by both hunting and gun rights communities.

No, according to gun advocates, what's important in this tragedy is one individual misunderstood the hydrostatic shock of a bullet entering a large animal. But even that technicality doesn't really matter: if he had misstated the trigger pull of an AR15 by 5 Lbs, the same arguments would have been unloaded against him.

These individuals are behaving perceptibly differently than a doormat in the face of the NRA and other gun advocates. That is why they must be attacked.



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I've made my points here, the primary one being that the left is shamelessly exploiting children for a political agenda.

Marxists hate themselves and hate humanity, so disarming children fits in with that. Drug them and make sure they won't have guns when they grow up...easier to enslave them if you do that.

The left is so blinded by unfocused rage that it can't even see the NRA is a gun-grabbing organization. Every time a major gun action comes up, the president of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre, either gives in outright or tells the NRA membership to stand down. He says congress or the white house would never dare follow through with threats against guns, so don't worry, stand down. That lulls the members into complacency and then the restrictive gun action goes into effect. Because the NRA membership didn't keep the government honest. So the NRA is a GOOD thing for the left. But the left can't see that. They just want somebody to scream at, so their leaders point them at the NRA.

GOA (Gun Owners of America) is a good gun organization. As is JPFO (Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership). I just checked their site and found this:

"No Guns for Negroes " exposes the racist history of American gun control laws. Every person who supports gun control laws must be shown this film or gun ownership will cease to exist in America. NEW - Read a very relevant article - "The Racist Roots of Gun Control" by Clayton E. Cramer.

http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ngn-download-view.htm

Blacks bought guns after the Civil War. Whites passed laws against it. The left now wants to make sure EVERYBODY on the Marxist plantation is disarmed.

Get a clue, people. Hitler disarmed the Jews. What happened to them then? JPFO will 'splain it to you if you go to their site.


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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
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Okay, we're in alternate reality, here, clearly.
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the NRA is a gun-grabbing organization.
As I said . . .
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"No Guns for Negroes " exposes the racist history of American gun control laws.
But then, there is also evidence that the second amendment was a racist play. Everything in American history is tainted by racism, because that's America.
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The left now wants to make sure EVERYBODY on the Marxist plantation is disarmed.

Because then we could have a peaceful society where people don't pull assault rifles on those they don't like. We could be like New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Finland, Germany, France, Britain, Ireland, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, and Canada . . . a bunch of enslaved victims controlled by Marxist overlords.



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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
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Every time a major gun action comes up, the president of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre, either gives in outright or tells the NRA membership to stand down.

Mr. LaPierre is such a softie, yes. Loved his performance at CPAC.

I didn't think it would be possible to long for the good old days of the NRA, but I was wrong. Not all that long ago (but it does seems like ages), the NRA held positions that were right in line with present-day reformers of gun laws. I found this summary from my favorite magazine, The Week, to be helpful.
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When was the NRA founded?
In 1871, by two Civil War veterans in New York—one of them a former New York Times reporter. They, along with the National Rifle Association’s first president, Union Gen. Ambrose Burnside, hoped to improve the dismal shooting abilities of the average Union soldier. (Yankee troops fired 1,000 rounds for every bullet that struck a Confederate soldier, according to an official study.) Their original mission focused on hunting, conservation, and marksmanship; there was no mention of protecting the Second Amendment right to bear arms. Indeed, for nearly a century, the NRA actively lobbied for gun control—​co-authoring gun restrictions with the government right up until the 1970s. “Historically,” says UCLA law professor Adam Winkler, “the leadership of the NRA was more open-minded about gun control than someone familiar with the modern NRA might imagine.”

What restrictions did they endorse?
The NRA backed the nation’s first federal gun laws after the Prohibition Era, when tommy gun–wielding gangsters warred in the streets of Chicago. The National Firearms Acts of 1934 and 1938 placed heavy taxes and regulations on machine guns, sawed-off shotguns, and silencers; prohibited felons from owning weapons; and required gun owners to register with the federal government. NRA leader Karl T. Frederick not only endorsed the legislation, he went so far as to state, “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.”

How long did that position last?
Right through the 1960s, when assassinations and street violence rocked the nation. When it emerged that Lee Harvey Oswald had used a rifle purchased via an NRA mail-order advertisement to assassinate President John F. Kennedy in 1963, NRA executive vice president Franklin Orth backed the banning of mail-order sales. And when members of the Black Panther Party marched on the California Capitol carrying shotguns and rifles, the NRA supported state legislation prohibiting “open carry” in public places. “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons,” said then Gov. Ronald Reagan. After gunmen assassinated Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy, Congress passed the Gun Control Act of 1968. The law imposed various new restrictions, including on the shipping of guns across state lines.

When did things change?
By 1968, there were rumbles of rebellion against gun control within the NRA. Though the organization supported the Gun Control Act, it blocked attempts to include a national gun registry and a requirement for all gun carriers to hold a license. Then in 1971, federal agents shot and paralyzed longtime NRA member Kenyon Ballew during a gun raid at his home in Maryland. Anti-government sentiment surged within the ranks, and hard-liners became increasingly impatient with the leadership’s “soft” stance. Things came to a head on the night of May 21, 1977—known in NRA lore as the Revolt at Cincinnati—when gun-rights radicals stormed the group’s annual meeting in Ohio and demanded changes to the governing structure. The old guard was ousted, and new Executive Vice President Harlon Carter, who had served time for shooting dead a Mexican teenager, spelled out the new approach: “No compromise. No gun legislation.” The NRA would become an organization “so strong,” said Carter, “that no politician in America mindful of his political career would want to challenge [our] goals.”

How did it build its power?
The NRA began grading politicians from A to F on gun-control legislation. Those with the best report cards were given campaign money; the rest earned the wrath of the NRA’s ballooning membership, which tripled following the Cincinnati revolt. Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) complained of a “litmus test every five minutes.” The leadership adopted a new motto—“The Right of the People to Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed”—and waded deeper into the culture wars, fueled by the spread of Waco-inspired conspiracy theories about gun-confiscating government forces in black helicopters. Each piece of gun legislation was framed as the first step toward total disarmament, driving members to the ballot box. By 2000, new NRA President Charlton Heston was challenging Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore to pry Heston’s Colonial-era musket “from my cold, dead hands.” Gore lost the election; a year later, Fortune named the NRA the most powerful lobbying group in Washington.

What about recent years?
Led by Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, the NRA continues to exert huge political influence. In 2013, when support for universal background checks rose to 91 percent after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the organization blocked congressional efforts to pass background-check amendments. The activism of its 4 million members is perhaps its strongest asset. Gun-rights supporters are four times as likely to have donated money and written a politician about the issue as gun-control advocates, according to one study. Those members are unmoved by stories about their early leaders’ support for gun control. “Then was then,” said one NRA supporter recently, on Guns & Ammo’s online forum. “Now is now.”

The corporations calling the shots
The NRA used to tout its independence from gun manufacturers—branding itself as the century-old voice of average-joe hunters and sport shooters. Today, though, the organization bolsters its funds with million-dollar donations from 22 different gun makers, including Smith & Wesson and Beretta USA. The NRA received up to $52.6 million in industry donations between 2005 and 2013, according to one report—and from some gun and ammo companies, it makes $1 from every purchase. The gun manufacturers’ influence is clear: Today, the NRA’s answer to every mass shooting is more firearms—even in schools and churches. “Today’s NRA is a virtual subsidiary of the gun industry,” said Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control organization. “While the NRA portrays itself as protecting the freedom of individual gun owners, it’s actually working to protect the freedom of the gun industry to manufacture and sell virtually any weapon or accessory.”


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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
The anti-gun march in Washington DC this past weekend. So disgusting to see the gray-haired old communistas herding those kids around. The leftists' stances on the Second Amendment would sound absurd coming from an adult's mouth, so they have to kidnap children to say the lines. And it's all paid for by the Democratic National Committee. Leftists are using children for electoral advantage.

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This is a campaign of sheer emotion. The "logic" that's been put forth is that we must choose to protect either children or gun rights--we can't do both. This is similar to what we were told after the 9/11 attacks--we must give up freedom for security. But if we give up freedom, do we not get enslavement? The same with protecting children. If protecting children is the goal, can we not use guns? A security guard in Maryland used a gun to stop a school shooting the other day.

cnn.com/2018/03/20/us/great-mills-high- ... index.html

The world is turning with a vengeance on the leftists and their central banks. Without drastic measures, those groups will lose control of the Long March to global dictatorship. Brexit was a huge blow, Hillary Clinton losing the election was a huge blow. Clinton was probably assigned the task of eradicating the US Bill of Rights, but she failed to get elected. So now the Leftists are putting their agenda in the mouths of babes. Disgusting.


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Here's a twist on the Children's Crusade:

REFUGEE LATEST: Two-thirds of UK ‘child’ refugees quizzed are actually adults
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/94338 ... lum-seeker

So, the "children" flooding into the UK are actually military-aged men. Talk about a crusade. And London surpassed New York City last month in murders, even though the leftists are so distraught over the horrible gun culture in the US:

London Passes New York City in Murders for First Time Ever
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... time-ever/

O, the irony.


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Post Re: The Left's Children's Crusade
Your first post in this thread was mostly ok, I thought. But then you said this in your second post:

KindaSkolarly wrote:
That's a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome you have there.


That was enough to paint you into a corner. That was enough for me to see everything you write with a negative filter, to put it very politely.



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