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Jesus = good. Yahweh/Allah = evil. Trinity = evil? 
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Jesus = good. Yahweh/Allah = evil. Trinity = evil?

In Chrestianity, which I think was the original Gnostic Christianity before Christianity took it over and changed the name to Christianity, Jesus was considered a good man archetype. Jesus’ God was also thought of as a good God.

Christianity and Islam created a demonstrably evil Yahweh/Allah with an immoral Original Sin concept, as well as other immoral doctrines, --- that the Jewish myth never had. Jews read an Original Virtue into Eden. Not a fall.

Christianity created and adopted the Trinity concept many years after Jesus died. Christianity kowtowed to Constantine and tied a reasonably good Jesus to a demonstrably evil Yahweh/Allah.

Was it a good idea to tie a good Jesus to an evil Yahweh/Allah?

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Post Re: Jesus = good. Yahweh/Allah = evil. Trinity = evil?
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
John 1: 1-2

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
John 1: 14

I and the Father are one.
John 10:30

...the Father is in me and I am in the Father.
John 10:30

Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.
John 14:9 - 11

As those verses indicate, I believe you're making a mistake in attempting to separate Jesus from Yahweh and the Trinity. Jesus was inextricably bound with Yahweh from the beginning, therefore Jesus is guilty of many horrendous crimes such as the near extinction genocide known as Noah's Ark. I think Islam considers Allah to be the same Deity as Yahweh, the God of Abraham, but I've lost track of the details and could be wrong.

So no, since they all committed abhorrent crimes as mentioned above, there is no "good" part of any of those Deities.

Kinda-sorta related, but not really, just for fun: From the Beginning by ELP


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Post Re: Jesus = good. Yahweh/Allah = evil. Trinity = evil?
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.
John 1: 1-2

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
John 1: 14

I and the Father are one.
John 10:30

...the Father is in me and I am in the Father.
John 10:30

Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.
John 14:9 - 11

As those verses indicate, I believe you're making a mistake in attempting to separate Jesus from Yahweh and the Trinity. Jesus was inextricably bound with Yahweh from the beginning, therefore Jesus is guilty of many horrendous crimes such as the near extinction genocide known as Noah's Ark. I think Islam considers Allah to be the same Deity as Yahweh, the God of Abraham, but I've lost track of the details and could be wrong.

So no, since they all committed abhorrent crimes as mentioned above, there is no "good" part of any of those Deities.

Kinda-sorta related, but not really, just for fun: From the Beginning by ELP


You might be right but Bishop Spong kind of kills the notion of what your quotes indicate and I trust his judgement more than the plagiarized bible.

I found this whole link interesting but if your time is short, start this up at the 15 min. mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmKEH9jnu8

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