Online reading group and book discussion forum
  HOME ENTER FORUMS OUR BOOKS LINKS DONATE ADVERTISE CONTACT  
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:22 pm





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average. 
How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants? (Green Power) 
Author Message
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants? (Green Power)
:shock: The safety of nuclear power plants has always been a topic of debate. The disasters of Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and most recently Fukushima have made us question the safety of nuclear power plants. Granted, Fukushima was a result of an act of nature. However, living in California and having two nuclear power plants right along the pacific coast, with the potential of a large earthquake, doesn’t make me feel safe. Also, since I live in the Sierra foothills right above Sacramento, I’m glad that they shut down Rancho Seco Nuclear Power Plant in 1989. As a mater of fact that’s one of the events that inspired me to write my environmental thriller novel, “Green Power”.


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Last edited by bionov on Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.



Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:57 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
I forgot to mention that the San Onofre Nuclear Power near San Diego had a tiny radioactive leak. One report stated that there was almost a meltdown. Anyway the plant has been shut down for over a year. Dejavu: Could this end up like what happened with Rancho Seco?


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:24 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
As I mentioned, Rancho Seco Neclear Power Plant problems, motivated me to write my fictional novel – “Green Power”. Below is the Prologue to this environmental thriller novel.
Note: This is a fictional account of a near meltdown at Rancho Seco that actually occurred on the 10th anniversary of the Three Mile Island accident.
Does this make you worry about the safety of these kinds of nuclear power plants?
:evil:
Prologue
March 28, 1989
Flashing red lights on the control panels and the annoying intermittent deafening blast of the buzzing alarms startled the technicians in Rancho Seco’s control room. Trained eyes zeroed in on the numerous gauges and banks of indicator lights. A supervisor burst out of his glassed-in office and yelled, “OK people! What do we have?”
Confusion broke loose as numerous responses overwhelmed the bewildered supervisor. He raised both arms up with palms out and shouted, “One at a time! Sam, you go first.”
A short, slim balding man in glasses yelled back, “John, we’ve got a big problem! If these readings are correct, the main feed water pump for the reactor coolant system has shut down.” Before he could continue, the room vibrated forcibly knocking coffee cups to the floor. More red lights on the many indicator panels started flashing.
“I’ve got an overload on turbine one! We’ve got automatic turbine shutdown taking place,” a technician reported.
The significance of this event triggered John’s analytical mind as he asked one of the female technicians standing in front of a wall of gauges, “Cindy, what’s the primary system pressure looking like?”
“ It’s rising, but the indicator light for the pilot-operated relief valve is green.” She replied. “It should be correcting itself, but I am still getting a reading for rising pressure.”
He turned to yet another technician and asked, “How’s the core temperature holding?”
“It’s approaching critical,” he answered.
Another voice interrupted. “I’ve got high radioactive reading for vented gases!”
John had enough information to know that a meltdown was imminent, but he was puzzled by why the automatic SCRAM (Safety Control Rod Axe Man) had not initiated the shutting down of the nuclear reactor. Therefore, he gave the order, “That’s it, let’s shut her down!”
With that order, technicians immediately went into an automatic mode themselves. This wasn’t the first time they had gone through this scenario. Each knew their role as they toggled switches into position. A manual SCRAM had to be initiated so that the control rods could be lowered into position starting the shut-down of the nuclear fission process.
Rancho Seco was once again off-line.


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:53 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
Just today I saw a MSN news flash about another nuclear waste problem. “Washington's Hanford nuclear tanks leaking waste, again”.
Here’s the link: http://news.ca.msn.com/world/washington ... aste-again.
I’m new to this forum, so maybe you guys have already discussed this, but if not, I’d like to hear how some of you feel about nuclear power plants and how they handle waste.


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:46 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Pulitzer Prize Finalist


Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 482
Location: Texas
Thanks: 39
Thanked: 98 times in 83 posts
Gender: None specified

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
bionov wrote:
Just today I saw a MSN news flash about another nuclear waste problem. “Washington's Hanford nuclear tanks leaking waste, again”.
Here’s the link: http://news.ca.msn.com/world/washington ... aste-again.
I’m new to this forum, so maybe you guys have already discussed this, but if not, I’d like to hear how some of you feel about nuclear power plants and how they handle waste.
E]Well howdy there, bionov. OK. How do I feel about nuclear plants? I don't like them. For obvious reasons...

As for how they handle waste. I don't trust them. After all, the companies have a primary responsibility to their shareholders, not the general population. I think it shows in the aftermath of the disasters.


_________________
The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer? - Jeremy Bentham


Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:21 pm
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Gaining experience


Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 78
Location: Grand Manan
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 12 times in 12 posts
Gender: Male
Country: Canada (ca)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
Hmm... I think that nuclear power plant and safe don't really fit in the same sentence, but I guess it depends on if they blow-up, or meltdown, lol.


_________________
Check out 'Philosophies of Self-Publishing: Better Business' a truly unique read for self-publishing enthusiasts.
Amazon USA
Amazon Canada
Also my site:
http://www.jeremy-benson.com


Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:03 pm
Profile Email
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

BookTalk.org Moderator
Gold Contributor

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6923
Location: Da U.P.
Thanks: 1029
Thanked: 1975 times in 1591 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
If nuclear power can benefit us, the question is more complicated than whether or not they are safe. Personal automobiles have benefitted transportation tremendously. On the other hand, tens of thousands of people die in automobile accidents. Nuclear power plants are not absolutely safe nor absolutely risky. They are in between, and the debate should be over whether the benefits outweigh the risks.


_________________
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.” - Douglas Adams


Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:58 pm
Profile
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
One with Books

Silver Contributor

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2751
Thanks: 2298
Thanked: 729 times in 625 posts
Gender: None specified

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
Fukushima?



Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:02 pm
Profile Email
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
BookTalk.org Hall of Fame

Platinum Contributor

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5867
Location: Berryville, Virginia
Thanks: 1506
Thanked: 1600 times in 1245 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
What killed the nuclear power industry in the U.S. was the unfortunate facts that nuclear power generation is too powerful and its waste product uniquely hazardous. Burning stuff to generate power is one thing, but creating a nuclear reaction to do that turned out to be another. Three Mile Island and Chernobyl incidents are very rare, but still, we don't have any comparable incidents that occurred at coal- or gas-fired plants or hydro installations. It's unfortunate, because in order to create better sources of power generation, you'd expect they'd need to use more concentrated sources of energy. That's why coal is a better energy source than wood. But nuclear was just too good in that regard, passing a threshold where its efficiency is seen as not worth the risk of its inherent problems. All of which is too bad, because of course it's the one proven technology that has a negligible effect on climate change while still being able to deliver the volumes of power needed to replace fossil fuels.

Then there is its waste product. The waste products of burning oil, gas, and coal are diffused into the atmosphere, their bad effects diluted by our air. Nuclear's are sitting right there and are seen as a ticking bomb. Some of this is fear from misperception, but the problem of disposal of these toxic materials is very real.



Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:46 am
Profile
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants?
My thriller novel, Green Power, uses the closing down of Rancho Seco Nuclear Power Plant as the stimulus for finding safer sources of alternate energy. But when terrorists get involved, all havoc breaks loose.


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:50 pm
Profile Email WWW
User avatar
Years of membershipYears of membershipYears of membershipYears of membership
Sophomore


Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 268
Location: Sierra Foothills, CA
Thanks: 1
Thanked: 25 times in 22 posts
Gender: Male
Country: United States (us)

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants? (Green Power)
Since my thriller novel, Green Power, is based on the problems at Rancho Seco Nuclear Power Plant, let met quote from articles written about events and the final resolution.
On December 26, 1985, power to the integrated control system (ICS) for Rancho Seco’s reactor was lost. As a result, all of the reactor’s controllers automatically went to mid-scale (e.g., the settings for the main feedwater valves went to 50 percent open). In the 26 minutes it took the operators to restore power (by flipping a switch from “off” to “on”), the temperature of the reactor water dropped 180 degrees Fahrenheit—well in excess of the 100 degrees per hour limit. In late February 1986, NRC staff informed the agency’s commissioners that this event was caused by design flaws and weaknesses that had long been known to both the owner (the Sacramento Municipal Utility District) and the NRC itself, due to a series of similar events at Rancho Seco dating back to March 1978.
On March 20, 1978 a failure of power supply for the plant's non-nuclear instrumentation system led to steam generator dryout. In an ongoing study of "precursors" that could lead to a nuclear disaster if additional failures were to have occurred, in 2005 the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission concluded that this event at Rancho Seco was the third most serious safety-related occurrence in the United States (Behind the Three Mile Island accident and the cable tray fire at Browns Ferry).
In all the decades of the nation's fuming debate over nuclear power, opponents had never spoken with such indubitable authority as Sacramento voters did respond on June 6, 1989. They became the first ever to vote, by a solid 53.4%, to shut down a functioning nuclear power plant. The decision, in a special referendum, put an end to the operations of the 15-year-old Rancho Seco facility owned by the Sacramento Municipal Utility District. Within twelve hours after the polls closed, SMUD directors, who had pledged in advance to abide by the decision, had started shutting down the plant.
To get a feeling of how I handled this in a fiction novel, please read the prologue at Amazon for my environmental thriller – “Green Power”.
http://www.amazon.com/Green-Power-Thril ... 26CWZZXNPZ


_________________
Charles Vrooman
http://chvrooman.wix.com/thrillers


Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:32 pm
Profile Email WWW
Official Newbie!


Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post
Gender: None specified

Post Re: How Safe are Nuclear Power Plants? (Green Power)
this has been a topic surrounded in controversy for many years. In my opinion it boils down to the safety standards set in place by the country it resides in. Obviously, I am against unexperienced orgs deciding to venture into this field, instead of merging with an already running infrastructure and branching off. Let me know what you think.



Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:46 am
Profile Email
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] • Topic evaluate: Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average.Evaluations: 0, 0.00 on the average. 



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:

BookTalk.org Newsletter 



Site Resources 
HELPFUL INFO:
Forum Rules & Tips
Frequently Asked Questions
BBCode Explained
Author Interview Transcripts
Be a Book Discussion Leader!

IDEAS FOR WHAT TO READ:
Bestsellers
Book Awards
• Book Reviews
• Online Books
• Team Picks
Newspaper Book Sections

WHERE TO BUY BOOKS:
• Great resource pages are coming!

BEHIND THE BOOKS:
• Great resource pages are coming!

PROMOTE YOUR BOOK!
Advertise on BookTalk.org
How To Promote Your Book

Featured Books

Books by New Authors


*

FACTS is a select group of active BookTalk.org members passionate about promoting Freethought, Atheism, Critical Thinking and Science.

Apply to join FACTS
See who else is in FACTS







BookTalk.org is a thriving book discussion forum, online reading group or book club. We read and talk about both fiction and non-fiction books as a community. Our forums are open to anyone in the world. While discussing books is our passion we also have active forums for talking about poetry, short stories, writing and authors. Our general discussion forum section includes forums for discussing science, religion, philosophy, politics, history, current events, arts, entertainment and more. We hope you join us!



Copyright © BookTalk.org 2002-2017. All rights reserved.
Display Pagerank