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If it's not following the scientific method (among other things) then it should not be referred to as science.

Forensics as been given the reverence and mystique of science and has not been subjected to skepticism enough because it has the almighty word "science" attached to it.

if your life (or someone you love) ever should hang in the balance and depend on "a work in progress" you might feel more strongly about exposing it as significantly flawed.


I don't know about the reverence and mystique bit, but I agree with everything else you say. As I said, people attempt to force firm conclusions when the data itself should be regarded as incomplete. We see men released from prison ten or fifteen years after the fact because the forensics methods are shown to be deeply flawed. So I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you there. Are you trying to pin the blame on science? That's what it's starting to look like.

I worked as a newspaper reporter for many years and covered a number of trials. I've seen young men sent to prison for a mandatory ten years under minimum sentencing laws established by politicians. I've always been vocal about abolishing such minimum sentencing laws because they take the judging away from our judges. Our entire justice system is deeply flawed and unfortunately entrenched as well. It's much tainted by politics and racism.


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Post Re: Forensics is deeply unscientific
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If it's not following the scientific method (among other things) then it should not be referred to as science.


What is the proper naming policy? I think it's sort of slang, that we call things "science" which are instead science-based. There is science behind forensics. Not all of it, but a good deal of it. Just enough, it seems, to lead juries into false trust.

From reading the article, there seems to be a strange mix of science and pseudoscience.


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From reading the article, there seems to be a strange mix of science and pseudoscience.


Yes, I too noticed that.
in fields such as forensic anthropology and DNA analysis, I would personally keep the wold "pseudoscience" at a distance.
but I don't think his claim was that all forensics is pseudo scientific.



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