ant wrote:The actual problem here is belief in Jesus. Christ stands for the heart of Christianity. If you do away with Jesus completely by claiming he was a myth, then you drive a stake through the very heart of Christianity itself. And if you do that, then perhaps you move closer to the ultimate goal of doing away with the Christian god himself.
Since Christianity is the dominant religion with political, social, and educational influence in our western culture, the agenda becomes clear.
I tend to agree with Ehrman's view on this. The degree of emotion here is high for mythicists. So high, atheists/humanists are willing to develop theories about the historical Jesus that are mostly emotion driven. Unsubstantiated narratives, obscure claims of cabals, scriptural interpretations of convenience and the like are digested with an uncritical eyeball.
The actual problem here is belief in Jesus.
the actual problem here is belief in a literalised metaphor
Christ stands for the heart of Christianity.
give me a break! does santa stand for the heart of xmas, does the easter bunny stand for the heart of easter, does a cat stand for 9 lives!
If you do away with Jesus completely by claiming he was a myth,
you dont do away with Jesus by claiming he was a myth anymore than you do away with efficiency by claiming that you cant really stitch time, you do away with the true significance of the metaphor by insisting the dumbass literal interpretation is the only interpretation when in fact it is a childish and stupid interpretation.
then you drive a stake through the very heart of Christianity itself.
isn't that what you are supposed to do with vampires? literalist orthodoxy has sucked the lifes blood out of many a seeker.
And if you do that, then perhaps you move closer to the ultimate goal of doing away with the Christian god himself.
oh what piffle, what balderdash, poppycock! any god that can be done away with is a numpty, God Shmod!
show me a God that can be done away with and i'll show you an outworn metaphor for the transcendant.
where is this christian God that can be done away with according to ant? is he on the toilet? perhaps he cant hear us because he is old and his ears are failing, would that he would do away with the tiny conception of ant.
Since Christianity is the dominant religion
yawn... literalist orthodoxy is the faith of fools, submissive fools who have subjugated themselves to a priesthood that wouldnt know the truth if it bit them on the arse.
well meaning seekers accepted.
the dominant religion with political, social, and educational influence in our western culture, the agenda becomes clear.
good riddance to bad rubbish.
The degree of emotion here is high for literalists. So high, literalists are willing to develop theories about the historical Jesus that are mostly emotion driven. Unsubstantiated miracles, obscure claims of needing tithe money, scriptural interpretations of convenience and the like are digested with an uncritical eyeball by people who have sacrificed reason on the altar of subservience to a stupid preisthood dumb enough to believe a literalised metaphor because they lack the education to understand mythology and how it works in history and life.
Christ stands for the heart of christianity! sheesh give me a break, Christ is a metaphor, get over it already.
death to literalists, oh wait they are dead in understanding already, perhaps if they understood the reference of the metaphor christ is they could be bought back from among the dead.
literalism RIP!