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Post October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Everyone:

Seeing as most of us have expressed an interest in including fiction into our mix, you all might want to start thinking about a book suggestion for the month of October, 2002. Maybe October would be a good month to try out our first fiction book.

Our goal here at BookTalk will always be to have the Book of the Month decided by the 15th of each month, so that we all have 2 solid weeks to go out and acquire the new book. So the time is here for throwing some suggestions at the group for October.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
My suggestion is Massimo Pigliucci's newest book, "Denying Evolution: Creationism, Scientism, and the Nature of Science."

www.secweb.org/bookstore/bookdetail.asp?BookID=856

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Denying Evolution aims at taking a fresh look at the evolution-creation controversy. It presents a truly "balanced" treatment, not in the sense of treating creationism as a legitimate scientific theory (it demonstrably is not), but in the sense of dividing the blame for the controversy equally between creationists and scientists--the former for subscribing to various forms of anti-intellectualism, the latter for discounting science education and presenting science as scientism to the public and the media. The central part of the book focuses on a series of creationist fallacies (aimed at showing errors of thought, not at deriding) and of mistakes by scientists and science educators. The last part of the book discusses long-term solutions to the problem, from better science teaching at all levels to the necessity of widespread understanding of how the brain works and why people have difficulties with critical thinking.


Amazon.com www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0878936599/qid%3Dthesecularweb/103-8927452-5748648

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Edited by: Chris OConnor  at: 9/2/02 3:46:12 pm



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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
I love that suggestion, Chris. I've also really been wanting to read Tales of the Rational. Either of those books by this author would greatly interest me if we go with a non-fiction selection for October.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
That does sound like a great book. I'm going to add that to my "to read" list, regardless...

If we go fiction, I already raved quite a bit about "Ender's Game" in the suggestion box forum.




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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Jamie:

This books sounds good...feel free to tell us a bit more about it in this forum. Any websites with reviews?

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Well, there are always the Amazon reviews...

It's really hard to describe this book without giving too much away. The main character, Ender, is a very young boy who shows promise in being the next great military hero (and in fact, that is the purpose for which he was born), so he is taken to a school for the training of such young geniuses. The reason that this is important is that the Earth has been attacked twice by another species, and a third attack could be the end of humanity. The book is more about Ender though, you really start to empathize with him fully.




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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Ender's Game was very good, I agree...but I really don't know if we can get much of a discussion out of it...although this may be because It's been some time since I've read it.




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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Argh, I could tell you EXACTLY what we could discuss, but I don't want to give away any of the plot!!!

There is one issue in particular that I would like to get everyone's opinion on.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
I think I know what it might be, but....

I know his name has been mentioned, but I think we could get a fairly decent discussion out of Frank Herbert's Dune.

There are quite a few things in that little book that reflect our current world fairly well, and its also a great read.




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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Zach:

I personally think Dune is to large of a book. I know it is highly rated, but I just don't have any desire to read a monster like this right now. If people vote on it I'll go with the flow, but it doesn't excite me. I barely finished the last few months books.

I nominate Denying Evolution or Ender's Game.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
We need some other suggestions right away so I can post a Poll and we can vote by mid next week. So if you haven't made any suggestions please do!

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Post Re: October?
Sounds reasonable to me, Chris.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Have you all decided yet?

I'd like to make a suggestion if it's not too late?

The Consolation of Philosophy - Written by the first century theologian and philosopher, Boethius, it is a treatise on theodicy (i.e. the Problem of Evil). Although this philosophical work of fiction is written from the theist's perspective, it is nonetheless an important document. I feel that it is important for the secular thinker to be familiar with because this is something that will be used against you, especially by the more educated and knowledgeable theists.

In the story, the protagonist experiences a series of Job-like tradgedies and is on the verge of apostacy when Lady Philosophy comes to his aid and helps him reason through his dilemna. Two major concepts are promoted in this book which I find interesting. 1) Justice exists in the world because virtue is its own reward, and vice its own punishment. 2) True happiness never comes from something that can be lost.

If this book is selected, I will gladly play the part of the Devil's advocate, or ironically enough in this case, God's advocate.

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Post Re: October Book of the Month suggestions needed!
Tim,

Wow, that sounds very interesting. How big is the book and does it have lots of pictures? Ok just kidding about the pictures, but seriously, I would prefer our next book not be really long. My goal is to actually finish a book one of these months.

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Well Cheryl, it's actually less than 100 pages I think; however, I'm told its slow reading. It's assigned reading for a literature class at school. You can choose between The Consolation of Philosophy and The Elizabethan World Picture, which is close to 400 pages. From what I hear, the students who want to take the easy route, pick The Elizabethan World Picture.

I don't think any of the readers here would have much difficulty digesting it. It's not like it's Heidegger or anything. =)

Edit: I just did a search on Amazon. My sources are apparently off. The paperback is listed as having 192 pages. Still, not that bad.

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