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Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science" 
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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
This article in Nature mag nails it.
Ideological thinking like Interbane's simply refuse to acknowledge the realities of scientific practice within and inseparable from a social context.

http://www.nature.com/news/reproducibil ... NatureNews

"Pecisely. Replication of the sort that can be done with tightly controlled laboratory experiments is indeed often impossible when you are studying the behaviour of dynamic, complex systems, for example at the intersection of human health, the natural environment and technological risks. But it is hard to see how this amounts to an argument against mandating open access to the data from these studies. Growing concerns about the quality of published scientific results have often singled out bad statistical practices and modelling assumptions, and have typically focused on the very types of science that often underlie regulations, such as efforts to quantify the population-wide health effects of a single chemical."



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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
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Ideological thinking like Interbane's simply refuse to acknowledge the realities of scientific practice within and inseparable from a social context.


Why do you say that? It was a great article that I agreed with.


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /72014440/

Yay. The US will soon be paying reparations for extreme weather caused by climate change!

Interbane, this aligns with your socialism doesnt it?
Great way to distribute some wealth, huh?



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Great way to distribute some wealth, huh?


Why do you think that?


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
Since we are fellow Californians, what's your take on this:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/12/c ... rry-brown/



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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
The website? It's garbage. As for green energy hurting the poor, there's some truth to that. But there are also ways around it.

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/ ... to-8030588


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
Oh I knew what you think of the website and dont care.
You wouodnt even understand the science they discuss and cite anyway.
Youre just a bandwagon groupie.

Ill look at the link.
Thanks for that.



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You wouodnt even understand the science they discuss and cite anyway.


Nope, I'm really really dumb.


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ks-carbon/

More miscalculations and "it is not known"s

But yeah, as a sink, the ocean is a significant aspect of climate variability.
And little is known on how that impacts long term forcasting.



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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
Good for a laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iBLlksqztg


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
The next genocide

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/opini ... .html?_r=0


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This proves CC is anthropocentric and green legislation is cost effective and will save the planet !

Youre a whiz at this.
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This proves CC is anthropocentric and green legislation is cost effective and will save the planet !


No it doesn't.


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
I remember posting an article that covered this.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/348/6 ... 9.abstract

Much study has been devoted to the possible causes of an apparent decrease in the upward trend of global surface temperatures since 1998, a phenomenon that has been dubbed the global warming “hiatus.” Here, we present an updated global surface temperature analysis that reveals that global trends are higher than those reported by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, especially in recent decades, and that the central estimate for the rate of warming during the first 15 years of the 21st century is at least as great as the last half of the 20th century. These results do not support the notion of a “slowdown” in the increase of global surface temperature.


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Post Re: Matt Ridley, "The Climate Wars’ Damage to Science"
Of the 4,000 or so scientific papers that scientists have used to achieve consensus on climate change, 38 said we have nothing to worry about.

http://www.techinsider.io/global-warmin ... ble-2015-9

"So, a team of seven climate scientists and meteorologists decided to give climate contrarians the benefit of the doubt, picked half of their more popular studies, and tried to redo them. (The hallmark of a good scientific paper is that it's reproducible, meaning another scientist can do the same experiment and get the same or similar results.)

What happened? Beyond being unable to replicate most of the results, the team discovered major flaws in the papers. In fact, many papers left out essential data, and some even ignored basic physics."


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