Frank wrote:I go out of my way not to use the word "proven" since I am not a justificationist--I don't think anything is "proven." Belief in "proof" reflects a justificationary approach to knowledge in which certainty is assumed to be possible. I do not think knowledge can be gained by piling up observations, and I do not think that there is certain knowledge; indeed history illustrates this (e.g., see Popper, 1972).
I will defend anyone who is truly searching for credible information and purposeful knowledge. How that anyone decides to interpret that information and how that knowledge is used can be criticized.If you want to defend TH that is fine, but remember he views atheists as prone to Nazism and bigotry and it shows in his posts.
Frank wrote:
I have read the introductory quote from, yes my aunt Eileen several times. She states that there is no certain knowledge. Certain knowledge, in an ever changing world, with debates and discussions with people of varying perspectives, varying degrees of what is considered truth, there is no certain knowledge. There are only interpretations, there are only opinions. Critical thinking is a tool in which to make informed discissions and opinions. With this said, your above quote is logical, opinions are the culmination of collecting information and processing that information.Look back through the posts… no atheists here have made any claims that they cannot back up…
Frank wrote:
They have a need for it. It supplies comfort and hope. Prayers over a dying loved one and believing something bigger than themselves may hear a plea, may ease a situation where they have no control, or a situation that is unbearable is irresistible to many, even to those who require proof in other areas. Wishful thinking, or I guess I should say magical thinking. If you can't see the wires and the mirrors, the illusion appears real.In my opinion the debate is why the religious believe these ridiculous claims without evidence when they normally require evidence for other beliefs of such importance.
Frank wrote:
My aunt Eileen defends it too!You may ignore it if you wish, but I will defend my integrity and way of thinking as acceptable.
When have I ever ignored you?