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God’s decree. No punishment after death for men.

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brother bob wrote:Youkrst, why would I need to sick God on him? Many men are wrong about so much about God. That doesn't mean they need to be put back in their place.

Two you forget that there was THREE options to my prayer to God. YOu want to focus only the second one.

Gnostic quote "Here I am agreeing with you that God did make us all in his image and that is why we should all be judged the same and you are against your own ideas.

Just because we are made in his image does not equate to a requirement that we should all be judged the same???

I had three children, all made in my image, and I don't judge them the same. Just because we have some of the same tendencies and capabilities does not mean we all get the same judgment.

Put it on the level of life here on earth. Do you expect that all mankind should be judged the same for crimes committed against society? Should everybody get the same sentence? Don't give me that mankind and God judge differently. Because if your theory is right. Mankind should demand equal sentences for any guilty person. You postulated that mankind will all get the same sentence before and all might God. That is preposterous. All men are not equal!

Gnostic quote "If God created man in his image, why don't we value ourselves as being equal at all times. Rarely is this the case."

Why would a mere creature value themselves as being equal with the Creator - God? That is insanity.
That is not what Jesus says.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

You have a God out there somewhere while Jesus says that the only God you can ever know is within yourself.


"Just because we are made in his image does not equate to a requirement that we should all be judged the same???"

If you create souls the same and in your image, why would you judge some by a different standard?

You have also tried to have the same rules for men who can hurt each other as for souls who cannot hurt each other.

Of course we will have different standards here. We have to for protection. That does not apply to heaven where we do not need protection.

Focus on what you wish to discuss.

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brother bob

You say your children are the same yet do not judge them the same way.

Why not and what qualifier are you adding or dropping to the one you judge differently?

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I judge them individually! Based on the actions that they take! God will do the same.

Really frustrated that you couldn't grasp such a simple concept, but want to claim that God will give everyone a free pass into heaven.

Come on man, get real! Think! Don't react with your heart . Use the brain God gave you.
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brother bob wrote:I judge them individually! Based on the actions that they take! God will do the same.

Really frustrated that you couldn't grasp such a simple concept, but want to claim that God will give everyone a free pass into heaven.

Come on man, get real! Think! Don't react with your heart . Use the brain God gave you.
We were talking of judging your kids for the same infraction. I will take it that you would judge them all the same way for the same infraction.

Let us look at the individuals God creates then.

If all created equal and for the best end, heaven in God terms, are you suggesting that God's plan for us would somehow be derailed and some would not reach that best end?

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Seriously dude, have you read the bible or you just making this up?

Man chose to oppose God. Just like Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels. The Bible speaks specifically of people who are destined for hell (Luke 16 for one).

And you are proposing that no one will go there.

God did not derail the plan, man did!

Maybe you should figure out why God sent his son to die for mankind on the cross????? It wasn't just for fun.

I do judge my children equal, but do not enforce certain judgments because they did no such violations.

Man committed the most egregious of crimes by rejecting God and choosing personal pleasure.

this is so offensive to God, but still proposed a means of reconciliation.
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bob wrote: The Bible speaks specifically of people who are destined for hell
can you give an example bob?
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Youkrst, Luke 16 the Rich Man is destined to hell. The parable of the "Talents" states the 3rd servant was to be be thrown in hell. We also see that Lucifer is thrown in hell according to Revelaltions.

Gnostic, you might want to learn what PRESDESTINED actually means in Romans 8:28,29; Ephesians 1:5;11. It is a word only found 4 times in the Bible.

Plus, Jesus spoke of hell more than heaven.
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bob wrote:Youkrst, Luke 16 the Rich Man is destined to hell. The parable of the "Talents" states the 3rd servant was to be be thrown in hell. We also see that Lucifer is thrown in hell according to Revelaltions.
it's a story in a book bob.

it's a story in an old outdated book.

don't believe everything you read bob, especially not if you are going to take it literally.
bob wrote:Plus, Jesus spoke of hell more than heaven.
if that were true it would make Jesus a psychological terrorist :-D

ooooo you are all going to hell :lol: what a dick!
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You are funny how you so senselessly ramble.

Who made you the authority that declared the Bible an "outdated book." God is so timeless!

Quote "Don't believe everything you read" - I think that often when you write such garble.
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Bob, just because you don't understand what I post doesn't necessarily mean that it is "garble" as you put it.

It may simply mean that you lack the ability to understand it.

The bible is an outdated book in many respects, sure the truth in it is not outdated, but when it comes to what you think it means it is well past it's use by date.

For example

You seem to think it teaches that a God is going to send people to a dark and gloomy hell when they die.

That is some outdated medieval crap right there!

Let's look at this bible statement

Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sin

That is some outdated rubbish right there.

The idea that a physical Jesus had to be brutally murdered for the immoral deeds of mankind is stone age bullshit bob.

It may be that you have read a poetic image as history, that would make you a failure at comprehension 101.

But I have good news, we humans can learn.
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