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Post Re: Draining the swamp - Thank you Donald Trump
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Hundreds of years after the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, it is indeed stupid to imagine that anything will end racism or social injustice in America.


“You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them by living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be separated.”
— Abraham Lincoln

"Lincoln hosted a delegation of freed slaves at the White House in the hopes of getting their support on a plan for colonization in Central America. Given the “differences” between the two races and the hostile attitudes of whites towards blacks, Lincoln argued, it would be “better for us both, therefore, to be separated.”

The Lincoln Administration set aside funds to help ex-slaves and negro freemen succeed in Liberia. The colonization solution was a concrete project long before Lincoln. before Lincoln.

"Founded on April 25, 1822, Monrovia is the capital city of the West African country of Liberia. Located on the Atlantic Coast at Cape Mesurado, Monrovia had a population of 1,010,970 as of the 2008 census. With 29% of the total population of Liberia, Monrovia is the country's most populous city.
Monrovia is named in honor of U.S. President James Monroe, a prominent supporter of the colonization of Liberia and the American Colonization Society."

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The upshot is that the native population did not accept the American negroes as African.


Maybe in 20-40 years when people of color outnumber Wasps something may be done about racism.


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Conservatives certainly think they've got a poster woman for the unprepared, misinformed politician in Ocasio-Cortez. They won't leave her alone. But how effective is it, really, to use that tactic to distract from another equally unprepared, uniformed politician who happens to occupy a slightly higher office than the 29-year-old congresswoman? At any rate, some conservatives say the attacks are shallow and ultimately more discrediting to those making them than to Ocasio-Cortez. https://nypost.com/2018/11/25/cheap-sho ... io-cortez/

OK, so she has been prone to some gaffes. I have to think that the disproportionate reaction to her stems from fear of her influence over young voters who want change. She's not a wallflower, I admire her for that, doesn't appeared overawed by the institution. And some of her ideas just might be good ones; they might even be ideas that conservatives complaining about "the swamp" should like. Example: reforms to the way business is done in Congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... 5d790402f2



Unbelievable.

Why should anyone leave a public servant voted to be a representative of the people alone? Particularly in the political square? That's ridiculous.

My pointing out her stupidity is NOT a "tactic" to distract anyone from anything. I suspect there are many concerned citizens like myself who's motives are not as petty as you undoubtedly presume are true of everyone on the right, or center (like myself).

Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.

More to the point; what's truly alarming is the amount of people that are oblivious to her obliviousness and voted for her. That's what's scary about all this.

You can't hide or fix stupid.


You're a bright person, DWILL.. I know you always are first to distributed a little intellectual charity. But this is well beyond that. It's flat-out dangerous.



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Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.


Everything you say above regarding her applies twofold to Trump.


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Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.


Everything you say above regarding her applies twofold to Trump.



Hey, pal.., I'm honest enough with myself to acknowledge that. And, again, I didn't vote for the guy.

You on the other hand wave off crimes against immigrants as something that we "cant expect to report on all the time" (paraphrased) - especially when it's happening when your guy is sitting in the White House.



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You on the other hand wave off crimes against immigrants as something that we "cant expect to report on all the time" (paraphrased) - especially when it's happening when your guy is sitting in the White House.


Are you referring to my comment that the left doesn't report against its own side, and vice versa from the right? Not only is that a true comment, but it applies to you as well, in your silence towards the crimes of the current administration.

That doesn't mean I'm dismissive of it. I would HOPE both sides report on the crimes of their own side. I would HOPE you speak out against what Trump does, but I don't expect it. You have such a burning hatred for me that you misconstrue me this bad?


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Are you referring to my comment that the left doesn't report against its own side, and vice versa from the right?


LMAO!!

What utter nonsense! Talk about trying to sell a giant pile of stink..

It's the left that champions itself as the party of the people, the defenders of the weak, the mouthpiece of the indigent, the universal moralists, the caretakers of all that is decent and good, etc etc.

To think these types of moral abuses against immigrants do not cease to exist during the left's watch, and that you cannot expect the left to report their occurrences, "report against itself" or even attempt to ameliorate what they cry foul on when they are not seated in power has got to be the most despicable, reprehensible, morally bankrupt excuse I've ever heard.

Insanity speaketh.



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To think these types of moral abuses against immigrants do not cease to exist during the left's watch, and that you cannot expect the left to report their occurrences


Everything I say is going over your head. Why are you quoting me if you aren't replying to my words?

First of all, the left DID report on these things, as I showed. Secondly, it wouldn't be ok if they DIDN'T report on it.


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I hope Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez runs for president. I'd vote for her. It would be worth it just so I could laugh watching the right spit up blood. That's what I miss most about Obama.



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I hope we get a president that brings us closer together rather than further apart. Looking down the road of our current trajectory is scary.


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I hope we get a president that brings us closer together rather than further apart. Looking down the road of our current trajectory is scary.



Right.., except Christians, huh?



Let's hope though that our next president doesn't fail black americans the same way Barak Obama did

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/511358/

and some of this too

https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/us/obama ... index.html



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I hope Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez runs for president. I'd vote for her. It would be worth it just so I could laugh watching the right spit up blood. That's what I miss most about Obama.



Serious question here for you:

Are you posting from the Bellevue Mental Ward?



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ant wrote:
Ocasio-Cortez's blundering buffoonery is not something inconsequential. As such, the verbal attacks directed at her are not simply "shallow." Countless expressions from her have exposed the total absence of a very BASIC understanding of political structures, judicial processes, and historical understanding.


Everything you say above regarding her applies twofold to Trump.


And don't make us go all Sarah Palin on you. :yes:

(The smiley face will appear whenever I'm joking because no one gets my sense of humor. I think I'm hilarious.)


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Let's hope though that our next president doesn't fail black americans the same way Barak Obama did


Because he never pushed for bold policies that never would have made it through congress? That's what you call failure? And if he did use up his political capital on those policies, how loudly do you think the right would be screaming about him being racist?

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Right.., except Christians, huh?


Except Christians what?

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Serious question here for you:

Are you posting from the Bellevue Mental Ward?


I'm sure you're serious. Sign up here.


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Because he never pushed for bold policies that never would have made it through congress? That's what you call failure? And if he did use up his political capital on those policies, how loudly do you think the right would be screaming about him being racist?


Hey, some black american groups obviously feel Obama didn't do enough or nearly enough for black communities that experience life in America from their unique perspective.
It's a perspective I'm guessing you have no common ground whatsoever to relate to. What was it like being a black man during Obama's years in office, Interbane?
You've done it again with your dismissal of people of color during your guy's tenure.. you aren't fooling anyone with your haughtiness.


The "are you posting from Bellevue" was not directed at you.
Stop trolling me when i'm not addressing you directly.



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Yes, the Republican Party is controlled by Trotskyite commies. They took it over years ago. Ron Paul's 2003 speech in the House of Representatives addressed this. The speech was called "Neo-conned":

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More recently, the modern-day neocons have come from the far left, a group historically identified as former Trotskyists. Liberal Christopher Hitchins has recently officially joined the neocons, and it has been reported that he has already been to the White House as an ad hoc consultant. Many neocons now in positions of influence in Washington can trace their status back to Professor Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago. One of Strauss' books was Thoughts on Machiavelli. This book was not a condemnation of Machiavelli's philosophy. Paul Wolfowitz actually got his PhD under Strauss. Others closely associated with these views are Richard Perle, Eliot Abrams, Robert Kagan and William Kristol. All are key players in designing our new strategy of preemptive war. Others include: Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute; former CIA Director James Woolsy; Bill Bennett of Book of Virtues fame; Frank Gaffney; Dick Cheney; and Donald Rumsfeld. There are just too many to mention who are philosophically or politically connected to the neocon philosophy in some varying degree.

ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/neocon-wa ... eo-conned/

Marxists on the left, Trotskyites on the right. And the one thing they agree on is war with Russia. The Bushes and the Clintons both push for war with Russia. Democrats pursue petty issues with Trump and Republicans aid them, while we're on the brink of war with Russia. The only thing holding war back is Donald Trump. That's why the War Party in Washington is so desperate to get rid of him.

And meanwhile, back in the mind control arena, we got this story, just this week:

CIA’s illegal mind-control experiments exposed in secret files
patriotrising.com/cias-illegal-mind-con ... ret-files/

thesun.co.uk/news/7920010/cia-mkultra-m ... documents/

The Freedom of Information Act, baby. Yeah! MKUltra was the umbrella program that the Church Committee uncovered back in the 70's. Ultra had dozens of sub-programs. One was Monarch, where they tortured children. The press back then and even now focuses on the drug experiments, but there is much, much darker stuff. Pedophilia. The Podesta emails caused fury in the New York Police Dept. Those were the emails that talked about 'pizza parties,' talked about 'flavors' and 'toppings' and 'helpings,' so on. Code speak. Thinly veiled. The NYPD was ready to go public but the feds overruled them, then some operative was sent into a local pizza shop, Comet Pizza, and he fired a pistol and screamed that he was there on behalf of Alex Jones. So that became the story, about the 'conspiracy theory' of Comet Pizza pedophiles, and the Podesta emails have quietly sunk out of public awareness. But John Podesta gets confronted about it occasionally. There are videos of him on the internet blowing his top when questioned about the emails.

Research into trauma-based mind control began at Britain's Tavistock Institute in the 1920's, and today Tavistock is still involved in horrors:

In 20 years we'll look back on the rush to change our children's sex as one of the darkest chapters in medicine, says psychotherapist BOB WITHERS
dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6402003/ ... icine.html

After six sessions now, British mental health professionals recommend castrating male children.

Look at Celine Dion's sick new clothing line for infants:

Something is Terribly Wrong With Céline Dion’s “Genderless” Clothing Line
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/ ... hing-line/

Probably Obama's sickest legacy to America was his promotion of gender self-identification. One of the things you do to a child in Monarch programming is wreck the sense of gender, so that the child will accept sexual molestation from both men and women. Obama probably had this done to him. His mother's parents were CIA connected, and they named their daughter "Stanley." As an adult Stanley went to work for American pornographer Frank Marshall Davis, and she got pregnant. Barack was born no telling where, but his mom later married Lolo Soetoro and lived with her son in Lolo's native Indonesia. Barack's nanny in Indonesia was a transgender named Evie.

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Evie was noted locally for...well, transgenderism. So that's how Barack grew up, coming out of a CIA background, born to a woman with a man's name, sired by a pornographer, raised by a transgender. And he was also a member of a cult called SUBUD, or at least his mother seems to have given him a cult name:

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In that document for a passport renewal, Obama's mother crossed out his name (Soebarkah). Members of the cult adopted new names, and that seems to have been Obama's. The woman who later told the world that she had seen Obama's birth certificate (so we could all go back to sleep now) was also a member of SUBUD. Her birth name was Fuddy, and she died under suspicious circumstances not long ago.

What are the chances? The mysterious death of Loretta Fuddy
canadafreepress.com/article/what-are-th ... etta-fuddy

Anyway, nobody knows anything about Obama's early life, but it's the kind of life that the CIA keeps watch for. Most of the Monarch victims early on came from sexually dysfunctional families. Generational incest is prized in Monarch programming.

I think I'll put together a web page called "Who is Barack Obama?" The press has been slapping a lot of lipstick on Michelle Obama lately, so I don't think the Obamas are done with politics. Obama's had lots of aliases, and with the new revelations about the government's mind control programs, his identity needs to be re-examined.


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