First, let me say that I once tried using marijuana to enhance my creative writing, and the experiment failed miserably. During these stoned writing sessions, I was convinced I had produced some of the most excellent literary prose of my life. However, later, when reading over the results in the morning, I found some of the most convoluted and wordy crap I had ever written. Alcohol, on the other hand, has a quite different effect, but has proven only to be valuable to the self-editing process, and not to the writing itself.
I want to caution others not to think of this as advice or even a suggestion because, as we all know, alcohol does different things to different people. For me, however, one of its values is that it turns me into a brutal critic and detailed editor of my own work. This does not, I should point out, hold true for editing the work of others, which I do rather brutally as a matter of course without the benefit of alcohol. But for some reason, after a couple of glasses of wine, I tend to find all manner of unnecessary words, phrases and ideas to cut from my prose, and when I compare early drafts to those edited “under the influence” so to speak, I find that the editing enhanced, rather than detracted, from the readability and precision of the writing.
This phenomenon puzzles me a bit, because alcohol generally has the effect of making a person less inhibited and more convinced (though often falsely) of their own veracity and skills. In my case, however, not only am I able to be severely critical of myself as a writer, but can see technical flaws and typos that I seem to pass over when completely sober. I do not, by the way, ever drink to excess; I never get drunk or have hangovers. In fact, I drink wine cut by half with water, much as parents in Europe do when allowing their children to have wine with meals. Still, even this small level of alcohol consumption seems to be enough to enhance my ability to be critical of, and effectively edit, my own writing.
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I've never used drugs so I can't offer an opinion as to their effectiveness. As to alcohol, however, I have found it to be helpful for the first hour or so, but past that point, it's wise to stop writing. But, that's my experience, maybe others have had different results.
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Another thing: Even more than alcohol, at least for me, the best stimulant is white hot anger. I write mostly essays on current issues and my best are when I really, truly am PO'ed about a subject. Anger tends to focus one's attention.
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well it all depends. i would like to give an example. s. t. coleridge wrote his celebrated poem Kubla Khan after he woke up from a sleep induced by marijuana. he said that he wrote the poem in his dream and when he woke up he began scribbling it on paper. in midst of all this he was interrupted by a man for some work and when after an hour coleridge returned the whole impact of marijuana had ended and he forgot the rest of the poem and finished it in a hurried fashion. so it can inspire and also make you forget too.
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No judgment here, just a list of famous writers who were known to do a lot of drinking while writing, plus a couple of anecdotes.
Hunter Thompson, Raymond Chandler, John Cheever, Tennessee Williams, Dylan Thomas, Dorothy Parker, Edgar Allen Poe, Truman Capote, Jack Kerouac, William Faulkner, Charles Bukowski, F. Scott Fitzgerald, James Joyce, Ernest Hemingway, Carson McCullers
Here are a couple of interesting stories about Chandler and McCullers from the book Hemingway & Bailey's Bartending Guide
Raymond Chandler
"I think a man ought to get drunk at least twice a year just on principle."
Paramount Studios put the movie The Blue Dahlia into production before Chandler had written a line of the script. Unfortunately, two weeks into shooting, he had yet to find an ending and was suffering from writer's block. He told his producer, John Houseman, that although he was a recovering alcoholic and had been sober for some time, he could only finish the script if he relapsed completely. Houseman arranged for Paramount to place six secretaries at Chandler's house around the clock. A doctor was hired to give him vitamin shots, as he rarely ate when drinking. Limousines waited outside, ready to run pages at a moment's notice. In the end he produced one of his best original scripts, and the story of his self-sacrifice became Hollywood legend.
Carson McCullers
"I'm drinking hot tea and not doing much."
Not nearly so powerful as a Long Island Iced Tea, McCullers' favorite drink while writing was a mixture of hot tea and sherry that she kept in a thermos. She named the concoction "sonnie boy" and, often claiming it was only tea, would drink straight through the workday. McCullers must have felt the liquor helped her creativity. At Yaddo, the famous writers' colony, she began with a beer at the typewriter just after breakfast, then moved on to her "sonnie boy," and finished with cocktails in the evening.
Hunter Thompson, Raymond Chandler, John Cheever, Tennessee Williams, Dylan Thomas, Dorothy Parker, Edgar Allen Poe, Truman Capote, Jack Kerouac, William Faulkner, Charles Bukowski, F. Scott Fitzgerald, James Joyce, Ernest Hemingway, Carson McCullers
Here are a couple of interesting stories about Chandler and McCullers from the book Hemingway & Bailey's Bartending Guide
Raymond Chandler
"I think a man ought to get drunk at least twice a year just on principle."
Paramount Studios put the movie The Blue Dahlia into production before Chandler had written a line of the script. Unfortunately, two weeks into shooting, he had yet to find an ending and was suffering from writer's block. He told his producer, John Houseman, that although he was a recovering alcoholic and had been sober for some time, he could only finish the script if he relapsed completely. Houseman arranged for Paramount to place six secretaries at Chandler's house around the clock. A doctor was hired to give him vitamin shots, as he rarely ate when drinking. Limousines waited outside, ready to run pages at a moment's notice. In the end he produced one of his best original scripts, and the story of his self-sacrifice became Hollywood legend.
Carson McCullers
"I'm drinking hot tea and not doing much."
Not nearly so powerful as a Long Island Iced Tea, McCullers' favorite drink while writing was a mixture of hot tea and sherry that she kept in a thermos. She named the concoction "sonnie boy" and, often claiming it was only tea, would drink straight through the workday. McCullers must have felt the liquor helped her creativity. At Yaddo, the famous writers' colony, she began with a beer at the typewriter just after breakfast, then moved on to her "sonnie boy," and finished with cocktails in the evening.
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Re: Do you think alcohol and drugs help writing?
Well, as I said, I find that alcohol helps me, at the beginning, but its effect doesn't last long, an hour or maybe two, at the outside.
I used to drink every day, but a few years ago cut back, drastically, to a few beers once or twice a week. It was taking too much of a toll on my general health.
I used to drink every day, but a few years ago cut back, drastically, to a few beers once or twice a week. It was taking too much of a toll on my general health.
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I don't know weather it helps, but i know quite a few authors who smoke and have pot to write books. It seems that most of the writers smoke a lot.
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It's not drugs or alcohol, but one or both of two things that *may* contribute to a particularly masterful work by "users":
1.) The personality type that would partake to indulgence is that of risk taking and an experimental mindset. Both of traits would only add to creativity (NOT to say people with just as strong traits who do not indulge are any less creative).
2.) The effects of having their *lives* effected by indulgence/addiction. Separating them from the rest of society due to their issues with alcohol or drugs. They become outcasts. Either outright or in their own minds. I read once that it is when people feel as if they do not belong in society or separated from it, they are more apt to question life's meaning(s). This get's infused in various symbolic or outright expression in their work.
You can *not* fain these scenarios. You are, or you aren't.
1.) The personality type that would partake to indulgence is that of risk taking and an experimental mindset. Both of traits would only add to creativity (NOT to say people with just as strong traits who do not indulge are any less creative).
2.) The effects of having their *lives* effected by indulgence/addiction. Separating them from the rest of society due to their issues with alcohol or drugs. They become outcasts. Either outright or in their own minds. I read once that it is when people feel as if they do not belong in society or separated from it, they are more apt to question life's meaning(s). This get's infused in various symbolic or outright expression in their work.
You can *not* fain these scenarios. You are, or you aren't.
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It all depends on the person. Richard Wright really struggled with the first chapter of Native Son. So one night, he went out and got drunk. He came back and successfully finished the first few pages. If you haven't read the book just read the beginning and see for yourself. His opening lines are gold. It's unreal how great it is.
For me, I like to write creatively when I'm sober. On the other hand, sometimes I'll smoke a bowl and then edit what I've written. This does wonders.
For me, I like to write creatively when I'm sober. On the other hand, sometimes I'll smoke a bowl and then edit what I've written. This does wonders.
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Alizerin:
I think you're mistaken, in part. Alcohol is a known agent for relaxing one's inhibitions, which is why men always try get women to drink. heh.heh.heh...
That characteristic of alcohol is one of the reasons laws are passed prohibiting consumption by minors because with their immaturity generally, adding alcohol to the mix is absolutely not a good idea.
I think you're mistaken, in part. Alcohol is a known agent for relaxing one's inhibitions, which is why men always try get women to drink. heh.heh.heh...
That characteristic of alcohol is one of the reasons laws are passed prohibiting consumption by minors because with their immaturity generally, adding alcohol to the mix is absolutely not a good idea.