From a recent read by John Dominic Crossan:
If Wisdom is a personified process (referring to the book of Proverbs and other references), why should we not think of God as a personified process?
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Do you believe in God?
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Harry Marks
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Re: Do you believe in God?
It's always fascinating to learn about how scientific theories are developed and refined as new information becomes available.
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John Dilinger
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Re: Do you believe in God?
Regarding your mention of dark matter, dark energy, and the complexities of quantum mechanics, I couldn't agree more - there's still so much we don't know about the universe and how it works.
By the way, have you heard of firstchurchlove.com? It's a website dedicated to exploring the intersection of spirituality and science, and I think you might find it interesting given the topic of our conversation.
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LanDroid
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Re: Do you believe in God?
The above link to First Church in Portland Oregon headlines "an apostolic pentecostal experience." They have a section on end times prophesies, etc. I doubt they are serious about "exploring the intersection of spirituality and science."
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When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you; even though you multiply your prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood.
Isaiah 1:15
But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Exodus 21: 23 - 25
When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide My eyes from you; even though you multiply your prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are covered with blood.
Isaiah 1:15
But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Exodus 21: 23 - 25
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ewomack
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Re: Do you believe in God?
I like Spinoza's conception of God ("sive Natura"): the ultimate infinite source of all causality that remains only somewhat knowable by finite human minds. His small section against anthropomorphic notions of God is one of the most interesting parts of his "Ethics." Otherwise, I like to consider myself an agnostic awaiting more evidence. So I don't claim that "God" does or doesn't exist, or even that people can really know given our current situation. Maintaining such middle ground remains challenging.
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Re: Do you believe in God?
The Tao is like a well:
used but never used up.
It is like the eternal void:
filled with infinite possibilities.
It is hidden but always present.
I don't know who gave birth to it.
It is older than God.
- Tao Te Ching, Lao-tzu, # 4
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So much for the First Cause or Prime Mover argument for the existence of God.
used but never used up.
It is like the eternal void:
filled with infinite possibilities.
It is hidden but always present.
I don't know who gave birth to it.
It is older than God.
- Tao Te Ching, Lao-tzu, # 4
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So much for the First Cause or Prime Mover argument for the existence of God.
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Robert Tulip
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Re: Do you believe in God?
I often imagine I should like Spinoza for these reasons. But when I actually read him I find him incomprehensible. Eg, see this summary of his views on God and Nature. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza/#GodNatuewomack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:53 pm I like Spinoza's conception of God ("sive Natura"): the ultimate infinite source of all causality that remains only somewhat knowable by finite human minds. His small section against anthropomorphic notions of God is one of the most interesting parts of his "Ethics." Otherwise, I like to consider myself an agnostic awaiting more evidence. So I don't claim that "God" does or doesn't exist, or even that people can really know given our current situation. Maintaining such middle ground remains challenging.
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KostyaLefevre
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Re: Do you believe in God?
its complicated. for most people its quite complicated. reading all the answers here shed some interesting perspective on my own answer.
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Re: Do you believe in God?
Yes. God is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. If you are a believer and believe that then the easiest way to conceptualize God is that God is everything and everything that exists makes up God as a whole.
When I first became interested in science I thought that science disproved God's existence. As I studied biology, chemistry, physics, etc. more thoroughly I began to see that contrary to my early thinking they all provided evidence of His existence.
When I first became interested in science I thought that science disproved God's existence. As I studied biology, chemistry, physics, etc. more thoroughly I began to see that contrary to my early thinking they all provided evidence of His existence.
